Poser among us!!!!!

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Ya'll know me. Just your average drunk, faul tempered, redneck Mechanic who came up the old ways.
Well I thought I would give a supposed A.S.E. cirtified Mechanic
from here a break. Jason Sobol. The kid that claims to be a wrench needing experiance. Turns out he not only owns less then $400 in tools, nor has the desire to purchase his own. He thinks he is going to work in my shop for me, using my tools.
I brought him down to Florida with me to help me get a friends stuff moved. So I could see if I could tollerate having him work up close and personial with me. So far here is what I have found out:
The kid lies thru his teath. He has no F-car or Pontiac Knowledge. Execpt what he sees in books or here, on a.a.c.f. He is very dishounest. He owns less the $400 in tools He has never in his life worked as a Mechanic out side of a grease pit pulling oil drain plugs. Yet claims to have apperntiaced for a old english car repairman at a shop he refuses to name. Claims to be a cirtified deisel tech, yet has no idea what a N-14 or N-14 Plus Cummings Deisel is, swears it must be a 2003 up engine! Can not even change the air filter on a 2001 Chevy Tahoe, let alone reset the air filter monitor with out damaging it!!!! (I now have to buy a air box for one). Can not tell a 1968 Pontiac Lemans from a 1972 GTO. Noting this 1968 Lemans has a enduro front bumper, a Ram Air Hood, a 70 rear bumper, a pair of third gen fender heat extractors, and is painted 1969-1970 Chevrolet Hugger Orange. When I asked the owner of the car (next door to where we are staying) about it, I was told it was a mid 90's custom job. Mr.Sobol thinks it's all stock, and argues it can't be a 1968, has to be a 1969 because it mhas "tail lights in the rear bumper"
This know-it-all that knows less then most new users here, fooled me on line. I made the mistake of taking someone at their word. When you meet him in real life you see how less then knowledgible he is. I know when he gets back to ohio the fur will fly on a.a.c.f. So im giving ya'll a heads up from down here. I hate drama, as much as I hate posers.
Charles Bendig currently in Hudson (Tampa Area) Florida
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Only thing I can add to this - and it's not much - is that I, personally, am an uncertified, working-from-experience light-mechanic with maybe $500 in tools (including my compressor), and I own my own company... Granted, it's an extension of my father's, but his knowledge isn't certified either, just based on experience with the type of vehicles we deal with. I couldn't tell ya what an N-14 or N-14 plus are either, but I know what to look for on the Ford diesels I deal with. Not knocking you at all Charles, just sayin' some people (those who don't pretend to know more than they do) can work on things without knowing specific differences, when they're used to one specific type of engine. (btw, in every other facet of my life, I want to know every specific detail... I just haven't taken the time to look it up regarding what I do for a living... go fig)
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Being cirtified has never mattered to me. I never went to any school for what I do.
Im also one of the few people left out there that tries to bring other people in to the trade the old ways.
I don't expect people to know heavy duty trucks, I don't know them that well. I do expect people who go thru a training and cirtifaction, as well as present them selfs as A.S.E cirtified in such to know it. The Cummings N-14 is a Semi Engine, the N-14 Plus is a upgraded version. Been out for over a decade, rather prominate in fleets. If I hire someone trained in both auto & heavy truck service, you can bet I will start servicing heavy trucks. As a few owner operators already bring me their cars, and would their trucks as well.
Even last night I gave old jason a second chance. I told him to disassemble a old swing arm exercise machine. Told him to use any tool he saw fit from a rather well stocked roll-a-way. Even told him he could use a sledge hammer. The whole purpous? make it small enough for the trash service to take. What do I get? asked how to do it, then having to show how to do it. Im sorry Anyone who went to a school and passed should be able to do basic mechanic teardown, and not have to be shown how to use tools.
I really do try to give people a fair shake, I think this one is a dreamer, who needs to go back to school. Charles
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And as an addendum to my previous post... I am currently a (as of this typing) drunk, sweet-tempered, moderate-nationalist Mechanic who came up under my father's tutelage... heh heh
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Damn Charles, you couldn't have picked a colder time to come down to the west coast. Looks like I'll be covering plants for the wife again tonight.
Dave(darn freeze warnings)
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poncho462 wrote:

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tonight.
Well Dave Im helping an old friend do an emergency move back to Ohio. I already drove one 26 foot box truck back up. Im going to be lucky to get back with this next one by X-mas. A p.o.s. 2001 International 4300 (dt466/alison 2400) Never rent a truck from budget!
I might be back in feburary or march to do some house repairs & do some salt water fishing.
Charles
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Charles, I've done so many trips like the one you are involved in now I've seriously forgotton how many its been. Either her family or mine, I always got the time off and showed up. It takes a lot to drop everything to help someone out with a move but it's usually worth it.

I will never let my wife ever book another truck for me. The last time was a 24 ft. U Haul diesel with a single 40 or 50 gallon tank. It seemed like we had to stop for fuel every 4 hours or so but the truck was way down on the helper springs and a fully loaded with crap 98 Dakota on a full trailer, 22 hours from Baltimore to Sarasota non-stop. U hauls are crap.
February ought to bring some excellent fishing weather. I hope I'm at the track by then.
Dave
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Dave:
I have done way too many my self. Thats why people know they can count on me. Some day when I need it my self, I hope the help is there for me.
The first trip I had a International from Penske, 26 footer. 2004, 4300 (replaced the old 4700) with a DT466 & a alison 2400. Drove like a dream. Execpt for the engine management system cutting off the injectors at 71.8 MPH. Yet you could set the cruise controll at 71 MPH, and not worry. Theonly problem with that truck was the single 40 gallion fuel tank on the passengers side.
This trip is a 2001 4300 that has 90,XXX and is from Budget. The radio doesn't work, the alison is funky, and it's a nasty truck. it's monly redeaming factor is drivers side single 40 gallion tank. Last budget truck I used was back in the late 90's. A Isuzu Cab Over that had a burned up turbo. Budget trucks are worse then U-hauls.
Perdy much in rential trucks they have single 40 or 50 gallion tanks.
After what happened to me last month, Im fed up with racing, and ready for fishing. Hell im even ready for a freezing ohio X-mas with deer meat from the freezer. Charles
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Dave:
I have done way too many my self. Thats why people know they can count on me. Some day when I need it my self, I hope the help is there for me.
The first trip I had a International from Penske, 26 footer. 2004, 4300 (replaced the old 4700) with a DT466 & a alison 2400. Drove like a dream. Execpt for the engine management system cutting off the injectors at 71.8 MPH. Yet you could set the cruise controll at 71 MPH, and not worry. Theonly problem with that truck was the single 40 gallion fuel tank on the passengers side.
This trip is a 2001 4300 that has 90,XXX and is from Budget. The radio doesn't work, the alison is funky, and it's a nasty truck. it's monly redeaming factor is drivers side single 40 gallion tank. Last budget truck I used was back in the late 90's. A Isuzu Cab Over that had a burned up turbo. Budget trucks are worse then U-hauls.
Perdy much in rential trucks they have single 40 or 50 gallion tanks.
After what happened to me last month, Im fed up with racing, and ready for fishing. Hell im even ready for a freezing ohio X-mas with deer meat from the freezer. Charles
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Dave:
I have done way too many my self. Thats why people know they can count on me. Some day when I need it my self, I hope the help is there for me.
The first trip I had a International from Penske, 26 footer. 2004, 4300 (replaced the old 4700) with a DT466 & a alison 2400. Drove like a dream. Execpt for the engine management system cutting off the injectors at 71.8 MPH. Yet you could set the cruise controll at 71 MPH, and not worry. Theonly problem with that truck was the single 40 gallion fuel tank on the passengers side.
This trip is a 2001 4300 that has 90,XXX and is from Budget. The radio doesn't work, the alison is funky, and it's a nasty truck. it's monly redeaming factor is drivers side single 40 gallion tank. Last budget truck I used was back in the late 90's. A Isuzu Cab Over that had a burned up turbo. Budget trucks are worse then U-hauls.
Perdy much in rential trucks they have single 40 or 50 gallion tanks.
After what happened to me last month, Im fed up with racing, and ready for fishing. Hell im even ready for a freezing ohio X-mas with deer meat from the freezer. Charles
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Well, if one thing is for sure: Attitude is everything. The rest of it comes as you go.
You can buy the tools you need if you are serious. You can get a break from someone if you show them you are worth the chance.
You can learn from others, everyone makes mistakes, there are some things on cars I've never done and still work with others more experienced to learn. There is strength, power (and fun) in working on car projects with friends and helping each other. Nothing wrong with continuous learning. I still use my neighbor as a watchful eye when I'm doing something I'm not sure of, or I forget. Better that way than to make a mistake I guess..
I started out helping my dad, then my neighbor, then we helped each other with things. Each has their strengths and they compliment each other.
A couple of years ago, my neighbor's heating system went on New Year's Day on a cold day of the year. We had plenty of tools, the right attitude and the willingness to give it a go. I also new a hardware store open that likely had the needed parts (and they did).
That heating system got fixed for under $200 in parts, on New Year's Day and is still working great to this day. Neither of us had ever fixed a heating system, we had everything else we needed and figured out the rest as we went along :). LOL.
I know Jason was insisting about the 86 Pontiac wagon his dad owned, when I knew he was wrong, but took the time to double check the GM parts book to confirm what I already knew...just to double check.
No one knows everything, but back to the original point: Attitude is key.
I didn't really know him that much, so I couldn't say for sure much about him. Your post brings things in a different light now Charles.
My sister has an '02 Tahoe and I'll be danged if I can figure out that reset thing on the air filter. I've pushed the top rubber button and it doesn't seem to reset that spring loaded monitor at the top. LOL.
I know the air filter is clean, I've changed it :). Dang Delphi stupid system. LOL :)
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Charles Bendig spilled my beer when they jumped on the table and proclaimed

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When I first came to this group in 97, I knew practically nothing but the extreme basics...and some of that knowlege was wrong. I remember talking with BB, Googs, Mac(Got Balls), Vampy, Wuulf, you, and a whole lot of others I haven't named.(Some here, some gone) I knew that I loved all hot cars, especially Fbods and it took off from there. Over the years, I have helped a lot of people along the way...people like Kitt, for instance, who had the same love and passion that I did on that cold December day in 97 when I did the search thru "Internet news and mail" for "Camaro" and subscribed for the first time.
Then I think about some MCSEs at work that have all the "book smarts" but not the experience or ability to get two machines talking over a network without using a hub or switch. (This isn't all MCSEs but the stereotypical "paper" MCSEs that I tend to have to deal with.) I suspect the ASE cert types are similar. Some are real good while others can't pull their head out of their ass without trying to use a ball peen hammer. :)
From where I sit, we all bring a wide range of experiences, thoughts, and abilities to this group. If he is just starting out, has the right attitude and untapped/unrealized abilities, he will learn and may smoke every one of us down the road. If he doesn't, well, then at least he gave it a shot.
Now as far as recognizing cars, for many years, I could walk around a Vette, F-body, or Mustang and tell you the year, along with what was wrong with it...but since the minor stroke I can't remember over half of it...but in his case(or mine) that can be learned(relearned) too...
But all that takes time and experience...you know? Anyway, that's pretty much all I have to say on this topic.
NOI
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Thund3rstruck_n0i wrote:

Ahhh....VMM and Wuulf. Where have ye' been? <sniff>
Damn...haven't heard from Wuulf in like a year and a half.
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GLK9MM spilled my beer when they jumped on the table and proclaimed in

Wuulf and I had some life experiences in common too, at around the same time...
VMM is not Vampy tho. There was a guy from Compuserv with the ID of "Darkdesire" that went by the name of Vampy. He was from Sacramento, IIRC and disappeared around 5 years ago... I miss both Vampy and VMM...
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Vampy seemed to live on the uhhhh...more exciting side of life. I still think he had a potential talent for writing though. Hope he's okay wherever he is.
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poncho462 spilled my beer when they jumped on the table and proclaimed in

Heh. Yeah. I wonder what sex his kid was? Last I heard vampy/darkdesire's gfu was preggers and they planned to keep it...then he disappeared the day I was out in his town.
Yeah, there are a lot of regs you, me, and others have seen come and go. I still talk to BB once a year min.
Googs disappeared, too. Jonesy from the bukowski group used to hassle him a lot. I guess he got tired of it and walked away. Also, anyone here still remember Cochran? You may remember him as the spam cancelling/reporting king? :)
Ah...memories.
NOI
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I called BB one time when he gave his number out. He was a hoot to talk to, I enjoyed "meeting" with him, great guy.
I remember Cochran, wasn't he supposed to be a Dr.? I got a "cancellation notice" from him after I posted a spam spoof for Camero emblems (yeah that's what it read, do a search for it if you like) and suckered Pat G into thinking it was real. I was just tired of all the stupid Camero spam back then. I also remember he was talking about an L (or J) frame .44 mag Smith & Wesson he picked up, how well it handled. I hated to inform him that the .44 mag was a N frame pistol; I had three or four at the time. ;^)
Brent Franker is gone from the group, working north of here. I emailed him a while back. Christer Medin is still in Atlanta hanging out on the late model f-body IRC . He picked up a couple of generators for me during hurricane season. We met in Tifton and had a little time to talk.
How about Shane Warfel (I have a Fleet) ? Got Balls (Mac)? Racer X? ;^)
Dave
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poncho462 spilled my beer when they jumped on the table and proclaimed in

Shane lives in Huntsville, AL as of 2 years ago. (I was there on business and looked him up) GB got married a week to the day before I did. Last I heard he still lives in Columbus OH. I haven't heard anything from RacerX for a long time...
NOI
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Thund3rstruck_n0i wrote:

Wasn't he the one that turned out to be nothing that he said he was? Didn't work in the field he claimed, didn't have the car he claimed and such? I seem to recall him claiming to have some aftermarket heads that the manufacturer of the heads said were never made?
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Cy Welch spilled my beer when they jumped on the table and proclaimed in

That's Corchran. :)
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