Re: 2004 Elantra Airbag Problem



Wrong forum. Besides, Hyundai fools you into thinking you have a real 10 year warranty on that heap anyhow. Bring it back to the dealer for a NC repair. Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 27k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 143k and still going....
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Joe, so they lie about the warrenty coverage?
On 06 Oct 2004 04:38:49 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@aol.com (Bigjfig) wrote:

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If a piece of trim falls off in 8 years are they going to cover it? Doubt it. If the alternator goes in 8 years, who's paying?
I believe if you read it, after a certain time period, only the powertrain is covered. And that is catastrophic failure (internal damage) which shouldn't happen for a very long time :).
Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 27k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 143k and still going....
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Hi Joe. Just want to be clear on this. It looks to me like you are unsure of yourself here. If you know something that's one thing. Guesses are something else. I'm not sticking up for them, but I do think if your are going to state, or insinuate that the warranty is misleading, that you should have a factual basis. I'm not seeing many facts here, just pondering.
If you do know or find something out though, enlightening all of us would be appreciated. A great warranty isn't worth much if it fails to cover too many things.
On 07 Oct 2004 04:03:00 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@aol.com (Bigjfig) wrote:

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Don't care, I don't own the heap. Hyundais are worthless throwaway cars, nothing more.
Remember WHY they give this warranty. In 1998 or thereabouts, they basically bailed out of the US market because their quality was so horrendous. Many folks were left with broken cars and no where to fix them...
They had to offer this warranty to "reinvent" themselves and give the consumer some "confidence" they would stand behind the product. Make sure you read between the lines and you'll see where they are going.
As an aside, one of the maintenance guys I work with has a 2001 Santa Fe that's been back to the dealer FIVE times in this past week for a check engine light.
So while it's "warrantied", what good is a vehicle that is always out of service?
The answer is clear. Worthless crap. Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 27k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 143k and still going....
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On 08 Oct 2004 00:37:26 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@aol.com (Bigjfig) wrote:

I appreciate you don't like the vehicles. I don't care for much for them either. As to not caring about factual basis though, it would probably be best to stop inventing things about their warranty coverage, the reasons they offer it, or how often it is needed. At the least you should indicate that it is speculation rather stating things as though they are fact.
As another aside, there are many anecdotal stories of people repeatedly taking their (insert big 3 brand here) vehicle in and having the check engine light come back on again afterwards. Though I have to admit, FIVE times is a bit more than you usually hear about!
Take care.
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I disagree with your first paragraph, partially because I'm in the parts industry and I can tell you they are crap. Again, why do they offer this warranty? Think about it.
Either way, it doesn't matter. In 20 years the car will be a piece of scrap iron, long after my American classics are still running strong (and supporting our country's economy no less). Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 27k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 143k and still going....
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From a former Hyundai service manager, who worked very close with the current East Coast service division manager from ECHM, outof Atlanta..
What most people DONT know about Hyundai, is that they used Mitsubishi powertrains up till the Alpha motor, introduced in the Scoupe. They used 3.0L V6 motors, the same 3.0L used in the Mitsubishi line, and the Chrysler line. The DOHC engine used in the Elantra was the same motor used in the Eclipse...just as info..and from what I can tell, since Chryslers buyout into Hyundai not long ago for the commercial truck division (Hyundai's strongest point, next to the supertankers that bring in your crude) they are still using a Mitsu/Chrysler powertrain. Now....anyone in the automotive world knows that Mitsu has some strong points, and some greater weak issues in quality control...guess who got the shit stuff? The warranty for the hyundai is what it states...nothing more, nothing less. Its better than the Volkswagon 100K warranty, and while the cars are like Kia in the reguards they are not worth shit a year and a mile later, some get very good service out of them...the problem was in the clientel they sold to. Back when they had the 2 year free service deal going, you had to OPT for it,and, it didnt cover EVERY service. EVERY damn customer that came in thought they had it, and they didnt. Most, and this is no joke, most found out and we never saw them again. More than once we had one come in for warranty work, and the oil was still the factory fill. The basic customer base was of uneducated morons, and devious sales tactics. It was up to the service department to fill in the gaps.
As to the OP...take your vehicle in, and you will prob find that there is a clockspring recall on the vehicle, and it will be repaired free of charge. The dealership simply needs to run it into the computer and it will find any and all that need to be completed at no charge to you.
Wrong forumtho...

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First Off it is known in the Professional Automotive trades that Hyundai's warrantees are full of loop holes. Second it is know that their cars have more issues that should be covered, they are not then any other major brand sold in America.
A lot of people are sucked in by the 10 year warrantee. Which is none transferable, and full of loop holes. People don't bother to readthem, and all sales people (no matter what they sell) discourage you from reading before signing. A lot of people get the shaft, then find out they bought pretty much a worthless vehicle that they can NEVER recoup any money from.
Charles
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Jeez guys, how about snipping once in a while? Not so much for space but it's a pain to have some folks top post, some bottom post, some post interpspered with the reply-to message? Do we really need the whole thread repeated ad-nauseum? Not too long back one got up big enough I thought it was going to colonize a new news group all on it's own. Maybe go out and start a new Usenet.
Now I'm not wanting to come across like the Usenet police or something, but how about just quoting the message you are responding to? The prior messages are on the server for anyone who want to follow the whole thread and if they are too lazy, why make all of us work to glean the genius from the duh?
Let's have a little survey with much snippage invlved in the discussion.
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On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 08:36:05 GMT, "Charles Bendig"

I don't like the things anyway, but I guess I would look real close at the fine print if I was looking at them.
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