Re: Want to paint my Firebird -- any help or tips in finding a shop?

As far as MAACO,
for $229.99 they can't remove the spoiler. But the quality from one shop to another is lacking. Good employees are hard to find, and management can only
work with they have. You as the customer suffers.
Changing the color adds about 30 hours to a paint job, if you want a quality job: ie removing the door panels, weatherstripping, liftgate, taillights and hood. Mirrors and all othet trim. It can be Mickey Moused, but if a shop is willing to do that. Do you really want them working on your car?
Using a quality acrylic urethane system, such as PPG or Sherwin Williams/NAPA Martin Senour, DuPont sucks, will bring the materials bill close to a thousand dollars, with sandpapers, primer-surfacer, sealer, base-coat and crlear-coat, reducers. Then most shops buff the car for the extra high luster.
So, figure at least $3500.00 to $4000.00 for a quality paint job. MAACO can do it so cheaply because:
1: they use prepackaged paints, most aren't factory matched.
2: It's cheap acrylic enamel.
3: You pay extra for hardner.
4: You pay extra for a coat of sealer.
5: They charge you for the clear-coat if it's a clear-coat formula.
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6. they charge extra if you don't want your wheels painted. my buddy had his Nova quickie painted at Maaco 'cause he got tired of primer and they got overspray everywhere. It looks better than primer, but it's still sloppy - there's a couple of runs and some orangepeel. He still wants to get a new hoodscoop and then he's getting it repainted... it's been an 11 year project so far... :)
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Not every MAACO gives you the runs,
some charge you extra for those!
LOL
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Dude, no matter what else you may have ever said, that one line makes you cool.
I did 3 days in hell, ahem, maaco. After that shit I wouldn't send my worst annoying buddy there. They expect you to sand a old full size (say a 72 Caddy or a 76 Chevy Kingswood Wagon), in less then a hour. They DA's use either 40 or 80 grit, and the small areas they almost don't scuff with scotch brite Red. If you get really lucky they mask the windows, not just roll them down.
I won't even start on the painters who can find a valance panel with both hands. Charles I can do better then maaco with spray bombs.
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LOL
Can you say Scheib?
Sure you can!
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As in Earl? Hehehe.
On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 18:17:04 -0500, "Refinish King"

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First go to car shows, or car meets in your area. Ask around about decent body shops. Even the rice babies will know who the good painters are. Then when they recommend some one, who did their car, ask to see it. Ask about body filler vs actual repair work.
Then when you have the names of a few good shops go and see them. Ask them exactly, process by process what they will do to your car. Let them know that the lowest price is not your concern, quality is.
After that spend some more time checking out those shops reps. Talk to as many people as you can that have dealt with them. Look for any complaints to the city, or BBB about them
When you go to get price quotes tell them you want this part or that part removed, and painted then reinstalled. Specify no plastic body filler thicker then a dollar bill. Make sure to tell them you want it "jammed in", including the hatch area, under hood, door jams, rockers, ect. Charles
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Talk to the shop owner and see if any money can be saved by bringing the car dismantled to the shop.
I've done that in the past and it's worked out great. It gives you time to clean/replace questionable parts as needed and you get a better quality job because YOU took the time to remove and clean everything.
Not all shops will work this way, so talk to the owner and see what he/she says.
Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 26k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 141k and still going.... '80 T/A project car...
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Personally,
I like customers that take a personal interest in removing the parts and cleaning the inner jams and behind the fenders.
As long as I get to help them to reinstall the fenders, I'd rather paint them off of the dar anyway.
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What you want is a shop that will completely disassemble every part that gets painted, and not reassemble until the clear coat is dry. It cost me over $2K to do one side of my car (not including the hood and trunk (though they did redo the bumper for color-matching). I don't even know how Maaco has been in business so long, you'd think they never get referrals or repeat business.
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You'd be surprised!
After they hit you up for the this and that fee, and this extra service, like the presidential masking service, urethane instead of acrylic enamel.
They can do a good $2,000.00 paint job. But you get what you pay for, and if someone wants a slider painted for $229.95, that knows someone else that wants a slider painted on the cheap. There's a referral!
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