hello,
I have a 1980 turbo t/a with an aftermarket holley fuel injection unit that claims it will plug into a computer controlled 7-pin hei distributer. The
1980 distributer does not qualify, but I was wondering if anybody knows it the 1981 distributer does? Or if there is an aftermarket distributer that would? I can't find an aftermarket one, and although I can order an '81 distributor, I cannot see one first to see if it looks correct.many thanks,
- george
You just need a late 1985 to 1987 301 distributor. Charles
I cold be wrong, but I thought 1981 was the last year for the 301. Would a distributer from, say, a 305 or 350 work?
Your probably right. My alcohol soaked mind is probably mixing up olds 307's& poncho 301's. The olds 307was made later, and powered the last of the RWD caddies.
Charles
A 1981 Turbo 301 distributor is computer command control, while a 1980 uses a vacuum advance.
I wouldn't use a 307 Olds distributor either. Stick with a Pontiac one.
Why you'd do what you did to a Turbo 301 is beyond me. I've owned one for 25 years and I can tell you these cars are just better left as is and enjoy them for what they are. A 400 Pontiac done up (if modifying is your perogative) is a much better setup.
Charles: Both the 307Y and the 307 vin 9 "Hurst" Olds motor were used in Cadillacs through 1990. The latter powered hearses, specialty cars with the B05 option and such. It is paired with a TH400, while the Y motor is paired with a THM2004R.
Also, the LV2 vin Y 307 powered Pontiac Safari wagons through their demise in
1989, Olds wagons through 1990, Chevy wagons through 1990, as well as Buick wagons through 1990. My cop friend owns several versions of these wagons. Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 27k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 143k and still going....
Charles:
The last RWD big Caddies were powered by LT1 engines from 94 to 96. Same platform as the Roadmaster and Caprice/Impala SS. Of course, the F body used this 5.7P engine through 1997.
The 305 vin E (the same TBI engine in the F car) replaced the 307 vin Y and 9 after that was last used in 1990. You could also get the 5.7 vin 7 TBI engine starting around 1989 or so. Some cop versions of the Caprice also had the
5.7-7.I'll go further if need be :). Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 27k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 143k and still going....
Yes mistaken twice in one night.
I recently sent a 88 Fleetwood to it's await it's death at the hands of monster trucks. It was/is a 307 car. We have a 89 Poncho wagon with a dead 307, and a 90 Caprice wagon with a 305 Chevy. All future demolition derby cars.
Sometimes it's hard to remember everything. Charles
in Trans Ams it was
but they had 4.9L Caddilacs after that
Jason
Oh my, you brought back memories for me, Joe...LOL
my dad had an 80 305 Caprice Classic wagon, which was replaced by another
305, but this one was an 87 Safari wagonwagon (or station wagon): a taboo term in automotive circles, replaced with the term SUV crossover
J
Charles,
The 305 in the 1990 wagon is not likely to be original. Actually, all 1990 wagons like that would have been 307 engines.
These are very solid old machines, same basically from 1977 to 1990. Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 27k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 143k and still going....
The '87 Safari would have been a 307 Olds :)
Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 27k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 143k and still going....
not necesarily
could go either way
Chevy 305 or BOP 307
dad's came with Chev 305
J
Then it wasn't an '87.
After 1985, starting in 1986, the Pontiac, Oldsmobile, and Buick full size wagons were all 307 LV2 Vin Y engines.
The SEDANS could have been 305 depending on year.
So are the Chevy variants from what I know. My colleague drives one :).
Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 27k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 143k and still going....
I was not as into the car scene in the 80s (was 2 in 1980 and 11 in 1989...) but I just wonder if it had a late 86 build date...either that or our neighbor (at that time) who is, to this day a pretty well respected Pontiac dealer in Cleveland....might have sold my dad an 86.
J
Jason:
I was 9 in 1980 :), so I'm not that much older than ya :). And, I remember 60's cars growing up, and 70's cars as most were just plain used cars when I was a kid.
With that being said, the '87 Safari would have been a vin Y 307, and the '86 wagon should have been too. By 1986, GM was only using the 307 vin Y in most wagons.
I did see a police issue 350 Chevy wagon in a junkyard, it even had a calibrated speedometer, it was turned into a cab later on.
I could triple check with the GM parts books, but I remember my colleague and I talking about this during one of our many traffic-laden NYC commutes. He's owned a load of them. Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 27k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 143k and still going....
well, damn Joe, ya tell me now, when there is NO WAY IN HELL I can find out anything about that car...
sad thing is, the problems he had with it, prompted him to buy an all new 93 Villager in 92 (possibly one of the 1st 1000 in NE Ohio, but yet again, Im not sure...he recieved delivery in Oct 92.) and decided never to buy GM again.....he had problems with tubes of metal and his old Suburbans, lemme find out the whole thing and I will tell ya...my father owns a floor covering accessory distributor, which will be going into its 5th Decade in
2006 :) J
Depends on how vivid your memory is :). LOL.
I can remember just about every car my parents owned since I was around and old enough to know.
Hell, I now own one of 'em (the '80 Turbo). It was my parent's car originally.
Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 27k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 143k and still going....
Egads... Joe your only 3 years older then me! I figured you'd be atleast 45 or so.
On the Full size wagons, I do know some dealers would either order, or convert them to 350 Chevy engines. Ohio didn't have emissions testing untill the mid 90's. Charles who has be busyier then a should legally be allowed.
Charles:
I pegged you for about my dad's age (if he were alive today...) LOL. Goes to show you how the internet can mask what a person truly is (even age).
I have seen 350 Chevy wagons too. Factory ones. Special order 9C1 machines though, complete with calibrated speedos.
My local yard had one that was still even tagged with the cab company's name that junked it there.
The rest of the world got the 307 after a certain year. I'll try to triple check that one though. I know the Buick, Pontiac and Oldsmobile were all 307 Vin Y engined back then. I'll check on the Chevy for the non-9C1 units.
Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 27k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 143k and still going....
Joe:
Well most people think Im in my late 30's from my looks. A number of my car buddies have 10 years on me.
Could 9C1 cars be ordered with out a police officer or department requiesting one? I would figure corners offices, fire cheifs, and other city or goverment offices ordered them too. Not to mention some dealersjust to sell them to the public. Charles
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