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I'm originally from The Bronx!
Refinish King
PS What a cesspool it turned into now!
foolishly


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At least you are where the good NY team is (Yankees).
Ya, the Bronx is ROUGH! LOL. I'm nowhere near there :).
Where are you now?
Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 26k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 141k and still going.... '80 T/A project car...
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Northeast Pa:
Where the women have big asses, and both the men and women have rotten teeth. For the most part anyway.
I'm about 15 miles away from a town called Shamokin, and no matter where I go. People ask me to open my mouth, to see if I have all my teeth?
LOL
I'd rather be back in The Bronx, with the pets. Plus Harlem is getting closed off Saturday, for a NASCAR race.
Jessie Jackson will flag it, the Inaugural Running of the Foodstamps Fo Hunned, Nextel will let Dole Watermelon be the official sponsor for that day.
Refinish King

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My '79 Trans Am is from Sinking Spring, PA (Reading). Nearby? That was a three hour trip for me. LOL.
It was originally sold in Waynesboro/St. Thomas PA which seems like a really stick-ish town. LOL.
PA is a nice state---the people are decent and down to earth. Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 26k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 141k and still going.... '80 T/A project car...
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Reading is a two hour drive from here.
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My Brother lives across the bay, Saddlebrook NJ. His best friend lives in NYC, in Queens. So I actually get out that way every so often. Charles
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Some parts of Queens are still beautiful:
But, make a wrong turn. Like in California, and go into a gangs neighborhood by accident. Expect to lose your car, money and all your belongings. Plus get roughed up really good.
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For the ultimate in fun, go in with a fractional HP belt. LSS.. Sunday, had a call for a resturant, that had belt drive blowers on the AC and the updraft kitchen hoods....2 hoods died and one blower on the main AC unit was slipping, so new belts needed...Sunday now....no parts stores open, and as luck would have it, out of stock of these odd numbers on the van.. AutoZone across the street..ALLLLLLRIIIGHT!!! they carry FHP belts!!!!!
Kid: Whats it fit? Me? Huh? ITs a utility belt...numbers on it....go get the same off the shelf.. Kid: Sir...we dont carry these kind of belts.. Me:Oh..you dontcarry the GREENones? I will take one of those BLUE ones there.. Kid: Whats it fit? Me: Ok...it fits a 1983, no..wait...82, Carrier, with a 3HP dual sheave 1 inch drive.
Needless to say, had to get the manager involved, and he wasnt much better...first words out of his mouth..whats it fit?
For an ex parts guy....thats REALLY frustrating.
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LOL. That IS frustrating. I usually tell these guys, "Listen, this is the Gates # that they recommend for it. Just pull it off the shelf and let's go" LOL.
I remember ordering parts for my mother's 1968 Magic Chef range last year. I got a guy up in Canada who sent me the parts microfiche for it. I made my own parts book from it.
I then took the #s found in the film and plugged them on the web, getting the latest Maytag (they own MC now) numbers.
Brought them to the parts guy local to here..
1) I don't think these #s are any good. (Sorry, Maytag says they are).
2) Where did you get these numbers? (Holding the parts fiche in my hand).
3) Um, I used to use a book for that. (Newsflash: This is the book shrunk down. You're about 20 years out of date. LOL).
4) Maytag may come back and say they are obsolete (Hmm, that's not what they told me).
5) Well those prices (Don't get smart, I got these from the net, you know that's list price, you'd better beat that).
Long and short of it was doing my own research meant I got all the parts (of course the numbers were still good..lol!) and the unit is fixed like new again!
Always do your own homework! :). Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 26k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 141k and still going.... '80 T/A project car...
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Sounds like me when ordering parts for old Sears/Craftsmans lawn mowers. Most of the ones I have had were made either by MTD or Murry. My Rear Engine riding mower (30 inch cutting deck), thou made by murry, does have a few Sears/Craftsman special parts. Yet nothing that a Murry doesn't still make.
Any more I just figure ouit the manufactor of the mower. Cross Referance the part number, write it down. The go to the counter and tell them what maker and part number I want. Occationally I get "We don't have it in stock, but we can have it next week."
Counter People are the same no matter if it's lawn mowers, industrial supply houses, Heavy Trucks, or Auto Parts. Charles
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Me:Oh..you dontcarry the GREENones? I will take one of those BLUE ones there..
---Ya, the green ones are PoweRated Gates belts (for industrial apps and high stress apps like garden equipment) and the blue ones are usually Dayco branded.
Same type of belt that they compete with each other on.
I believe AZ carries Dayco.
Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 26k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 141k and still going.... '80 T/A project car...
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Most Auto-Zone empolyee's do not know how the cross referance works, or that it exsists.
Back when I had a buddy who worked there, I knew most of the comands for their systems (which use RED HAT Linux). I also used to have a list of passwords. Used to freak them out there when I would lookup what I needed at an un-used terminal, then tell the idiot behind the counter what shelf and bin to go to.
Auto-Zone & most "Discount" type parts stores don't care if the idiots that work there know anything about parts, let alone how to make sure the cu stomer has the correct part.
Charles
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Was there (AZ) the other day for same thing, but for my '98 Neon. Of course their computer doesn't come up with the belt for this rare application, so after searching around for 15 minutes, they come up with a # from a different year, and I decide to give it a shot. Wrong, of course. Too short. After looking for a while online, I come up with a 350 instead of the 332 they sold me, so I take the other one back and they gave me a hassle. But I put on my charm. No make/model/year. Just said, "This is wrong, I need that. No...don't look it up, you already did that. Remember? I need it, now." Quiet with a look gets results better than shouting, I find.
F
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Lets see...
Yea..I know what it is, yea..I have one...actually, 2...ones installed.... And..you want to know what exactly? I cant really understand what you are asking, what with that shit in your mouth..
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Maybe he wants to know if it can be installed rectally?
F
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F spilled my beer when they jumped on the table and proclaimed in

With the way he's asked, I'm suprised someone hasn't given him those type of instructions yet...
NOI
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Im still trying to figure out the proper methiods for him to put his entire thrid gen in his rectum. Then reassemble it up there.
Ohh wait, it's probably a Hot Wheels or a Matchbox. For someone like Smite Man it aught to be a pure slip fit. Charles
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I can be...sideways as a matter of fact..but he wont enjoy it..
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B&B: Beavis and Butthead Bed and Breakfast (ya reckon?) Bitch and Bitchyer
We're straying way off course!
OB: Nobody else seemed inclined (nor has the informed ability) to enlighten this group. "Wonder Bar" www.top-downsolutions.com/Documentation/200170Instructions.pdf "GM installed these on 1985-90 Camaro IROC-Z when equipped with the 16" diameter rims. This 'steering brace' performs two functions. First it ties the left and right sides of the frame together under the front of the car, which maintains the correct geometry of the pitman arm and idler arm during cornering. Second, it strengthens the chassis and takes stress off of the steering gear box mount. It is common, in ThirdGen F-Bodies, for fatigue and stress cracks to form around the steering gear box mounting location."
My Note: Seems to leave the Pontiac people, as far as OEM, 'stock' (for a restorer's purpose) equipment goes, out in the cold.
Pictures: This item is NOT a true NOS part but gives you the idea..... http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t179683.html
Correcting myself: "1LEs in particular, I understand, didn't show up 'til 1987"..... 1988! Here's one for sale: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item $83583407 Judge for yourself.
Admittedly, earlier, I just wanted to watch the B&B brother's self-righteous heads spin 'round and 'round on their itty-bitty, pencil necks..... like Linda Blair, in 'The Exorcist'. Sure enough, they didn't disappoint me..... even coated the walls with a swash of green (envious), projectile vomit. True to character?
Between boughts of sidesplitting laughter, I'm continuing to research the original, yet unanswered Wonder Bar questions. Tedious? Yes, but compared to inscesent, priceless comedy presented by the two bad boys..... hah.
Watch for me, Bathless and Badbreath..... I'll Be Back..... soon, Smiteman
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Smite Evil spilled my beer when they jumped on the table and proclaimed in

Then this is goodbye, because I'm a plonkin your bad assed self.
/me rols eyes
NOI
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