z28 rotor replacement $650

This really sucks! It will cost $650 for a new rotor. The water pump has to be removed to do it.
------sigh!
-Val

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Are you talking about the ignition rotor? You might as well do the whole distributor at the same time (common practice on cabs)
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vayanse a la chucha

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This may sound weird, but get yourself a shop manual (haynes) and see for yourself if your waterpump really have to be removed. I never heard of such a job. You'll see that the manual will answer a lot of questions.
Good Luck
Dan

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If it's an LT1 motor, IIRC, the water pump sits above the optispark and it might be difficult to get to if you leave the water pump in place. The optispark is directly run off the cam, not gear drive by the cam.
By the way, you'll get a lot of heat for calling the shop manual a haynes manual. The two are in the same family of repair manuals but the haynes manual is not even close in thoroughness (is that a word?) as the factory service manual which I usually think of when someone says "shop manual". I've heard some people claim that the Haynes manuals weren't even accurate.
-Bruce
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Haynes manuials sould be illegal to sell in all 50 states. They do not give needed information, give bad proceedures, and tell you you can'tdo this or that, and to take your car to the dealer.
In the Professional Repair Game there are Five Types of repair info. All-Data, Mitchell, Motors, Hollender, & Factory Service Manuials.
Everything else is just kindling for the wood stove. Charles
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Charles put it pretty well....
The one caveat I would add is that the other "professional" manuals usually use the OEM manual for a basis anyhow, so why buy the copy when the original is better?
I have bought shop manuals used through the 'net for LESS than the Haynes manual. I think I paid $15 for the one for my Chevy Cavalier. The most I paid was $78 for the ones for the Olds 88.
Thinking about it, that was the Chevy AND the Olds books combined and it was at least 5 books AND it included shipping!
Moral of the story: Factory book or no book.
Most of the GM manuals are available new at www.helminc.com but used works for me. Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 26k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 141k and still going.... '80 T/A project car...
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Joe
The problem with a shop like mine buying factory service manuals is: You have to own so many of them, you quickly run out of room. Where as you can buy a few books of the other types and get 90% of the info needed.
I need to go to another old inventory auction from a dealer. That way I can get some newer factory service manuals. Because as good as the other books are, sometimes you just need one. Charles
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Yes for a person in the trade like yourself. This is correct. However for the car owner that fixes his own stuff and works on one car, one model, it's feasible.
Also as technology improves, it will all be available on CD ROM and DVD (already is from what I know) and the cost will plummet as it's cheaper to press a CD than print one of those fat books :).
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If GM offered a CD collection of factory service manuials, say all J-cars on one CD, and all W cars on another, I would probably buy them, and put a computer in the shop just for that. Would mean less frustration from grease book pages. Charles
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Charles Bendig wrote:

Look here; http://www.mygmlink.com/pdf/go2content/manual/US/en /
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The link takes you to PDF files of Owners Manuals. Charles
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That's great. I've seen that posted before and it's a fine resource, but it is the SERVICE MANUALS we are talking about not owners manuals. If you find those (service manuals) hanging loose somewhere then you'll really have something!
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Charles, see my recent post in this thread. It's even better than just a single body style F, Y, J etc. Go to the page and then check out the modles and years covered. Not sure what format the dox take but I know many of the owners manulas for vehicles are PDF so maybe it's that. Could be a proprietary thing too but... anyway sounds like it would be well worth $300 to a mechanic such as yourself.
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The problem is worth vs affordiblity. Ill look in to it. Heck anything that could make my business work better Ill look in to :)
I do buy most of my books used. Like my 65th edition hollender books. Paid $167 with shipping from a seller on Ebay. At local swap meets the same books are going for around $300.
If I could get the CD's, covering a wide year and model range (multi-pul) for a few houndred it would be inline with my budget.
I hate to sound picky, but every time I rasie my prices, my customers grone. Overhead with fuel costing $2.03 a gallion is about killing me driving 15 miles each way. Charles
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On 15 May 2004 21:00:57 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@aol.com (Bigjfig) wrote:

Yes I know for sure GM has manuals on CDROM (I think through Helm). Much more expensive than the books but then it covers many models whereas the books cover one model line. I'll provide a link to the current 2004 CD at the end of my post. As to the price, even if they start to offer single vehicles on CDROM don't expect the fact that a CD is cheaper to produce than books to make a difference in price. These types of things are priced based on what the market will pay for the information, not on competition. If it cost them 5 cents to publish it they still would probably price it similarity. I wish they would sell for 10 cents but I'm not getting my hopes up. :)
Anyway, here's a link (IMPORTANT, once at the page be sure to click the "models and years covered" link):
http://www.helminc.com/helm/product2.asp?class%5F2=CHV&mk=Chevrolet+%26+Geo&yr 01&mdmaro&dt=&module=&from=result&Style=&Sku=GMPT04CDSI17&itemtype=N&mscsid1FX335VDR88KM8J474LC346EAEA2KA
It's a lot of info for $300, at least compared to individual model lines service manuals.
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I think Helm sells manulas on CDROM for like a whole model year of most all makes or something. It costs like $300 but for a garage like yours it would probably be well worth it. I paid $120 for new Helm books for my 2001 F-body, but that's the paper version.
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Mitchell comes in a pretty close second to the FSM IMHO
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Agreed!
Although, Chilton's used to make a pretty good manual, till Snap On bought them out and made them a Haynes type manual.
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