Another study showing Ford's Rollover Tendencies

Of course. But Fox is motivated by something other than data or facts.

Remember NBC's Dateline "coverage" of the Explorer? *That* was motivated by NBC's $38 million contract with GM, signed only a month earlier, for Olympic advertising.

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JonnyCab®
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You need to find out what brand of dog food the dog was fed before you got him. Obviously, it was their fault.

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Big Bill

Actually, it was the fault of the breeder's father's hospital attendant at birth. And maybe the hospital itself. And the construction company that built the hospital.

The sad thing is that this really isn't all that far from the truth when it comes to lawyers.

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JonnyCab®

They are pretty laughable as a news agency...

JS

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Jacob Suter

Jacob Suter wrote in news:UHySc.38310$%L1.36107 @fe11.usenetserver.com:

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Are you a left wing liberal peace freak? Cause apart from them, everyone else is tuning in to Fox, for fair and balanced reporting!

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Norman

What makes you jump to this conclusion? A 2004 4DR 4WD

4Runner has a three star rollover resistance rating. All 2002 on Ford Explorer 4DR 4WD Explorers and Mountaineers are also rated 3 stars. The Trailblazer/Envoy are also only rated 3 stars prior to the 2004 model. I have no idea what was changed for 2004 to improve the Envoy to 4 stars. But three stars is a typical rating for many SUVs, so I don't see any reason to sigle Explorers out as particualrly unstable.

Regards,

Ed White

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C. E. White

Now I know *precisely* how to take you *and* your posts.

Sorry, but Fox is a joke, and your interpretation of anyone who thinks otherwise is *comical*.

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JonnyCab®

Maybe GM is now using the same early-model control arms that used to buckle under the front end, leaving the fugly Envoy/TrailBlazer/Bravada/Ascender/Rainier kneeling with both wheels tucked under the front end, dead in the street.

Or maybe the axle-through-the-front-oil-pan "design" is now causing most of them to seize.

Either way, it can't roll over if it can't *move*.

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JonnyCab®

You know what they say... The leader alwasys draws the arrows - from front and back.

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Big Bill

What makes FOX different from the other mainstream news outlets is their overt conservatism. That certainly doesn't make ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, or MSNBC any less laughable. Or more fair and unbiased.

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Big Bill

The Explorer can't be all that deadly, since Progressive Insurance drives a whole fleet of them.

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Dave Cilluffo

"JonnyCab®" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@corp.supernews.com:

yes, I do enjoy watching a news station that supports our troops and is patriotic. I stand by my country, can you say the same? Please tell us, what news programs do you watch? Assuming of course that you watch any news...My sense is the only news you get is from reading supermarket tabloids...

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Skidoo

From what I saw of the story it's a pretty stupid and misleading rating system.

It uses as "input" the results of a J-test (fish hook turn) that few, if anyone, will perform even as an emergency maneuver. Then it combines that with an equally nearly meaningless "calculation" of "rollover tendency" based on nothing more then the height of the center of gravity of the vehicle combined with it's weight. Then thru some unspecified (on the news) formula they combine those two almost meaningless numbers into a 1 - 5 star rating.

The only thing that really counts is what happens in the real world. As has been posted many times, the Explorer's generally have lower rollover fatality rates then MANY other vehicles, including some cars as well as several of the other SUVs.

This whole thing is a continuing media quest of easy ratings at the expense of ford. They just parrot whatever nonsense the insurance industry spouts without any in depth study and reporting on the truth.

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Dalton

Yeah, but they insure them with Geico and Amica - their way of "driving" the competition out of business :O)

Only kidding... couldn't resist. Actually, your comment was interesting.

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Anthony Giorgianni

Very good. Wave your flag proudly and know that your obvious choice for president says that outsourcing all of our manufacturing jobs to China is "good for our economy", which will come in handy when Bush slips up [again] and breaks off relations with China as well. Then what do we do?

His brother stole *millions* from Silverado S&L in Denver, and he and his other brother (you know, the one whose state, just by *sheer* coincidence, happened to get him elected?) are close acquaintances with all of the former

*Enron* executives. I hope you're proud. Greed, corruption, and overt *stupidity* are all things you can be *proud* of?

I support our troops, too, especially nearly 900 who have died in a war that was *unprovoked*. The only thing this "war" has done is *increase* hatred and the risk of terror against the US. Taking almost a year to find Hussein has also turned the former unshakable US image of power and intelligence into one of bumbling *ineptitude*. And, in only two years, Bush turned

9/11's worldwide sympathy for the US into worldwide *hatred* of the US. Nice job. Who would you like us to bomb next, so that we can *guarantee* more attacks on the US?

You'd see *all* of this if you could take off the blinders.

Uh, yeah, more than you'll ever know. But I don't vote blindly along party lines, so finger-pointing people like you can't label me as a liberal, communist, socialist, or anything else that emphasizes your *closed* mind. I usually vote for the best *candidate*, not along party lines, and almost

*never* for incumbants. That comes from having an open mind, the ability to gather *all* of the facts, and just a *little* more intelligence that what you have left after having it all sucked away by the "O'Reilly Factor".

It doesn't sound like you "support" your country. It sounds more like you support hatred, fear, conflict, and self-righteousness. And self-righteousness, by itself, is *proof* that you *don't* know as much as you *think* you know. Can you live with yourself being that *unhappy*?

CBS, thanks very much. Why, are they communist? Or liberal? Or socialist? Yikes, Dan Rather's haircut is getting a little too liberal, isn't it?

Sorry, but the only trash that reads a tabloid *also* believes *anything* that a party-run network airs---such as, for example, uh, *Fox*. Fox *is* a tabloid---a *video* tabloid.

You'd be amazed at how much you could learn if you actually dug up some facts from *every* side and made a few decisions on your own, instead of having them made for you by the very people that laugh at you as you blindly vote for them.

PS...it's amazing how you've never posted under this name in this group before, isn't it? Funny, your header info looks *exactly* like that of "Norman", right down to the very same news reader.

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JonnyCab®

Fox? Norman? What friggin illegal drugs are you taking? LMFAO! Fox? Ha ha ha...

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351CJ

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