TRANSMI3SION OF EXXPLORER 2003

Clear DayBought a 2002 XLS last year and already has 41840 miles in it. first it burn the gas pumb wich cost me around $800.00 to fix, that was three months ago, now it started smoking and when I stop realized that it was trans fluid wich was all over the rear gate, the OD ON/OFF light went crazy but I got home, next day when I started the truck to take it to the dealer to have it check, the tran started to slip and have to tow it to the dealer. Any have or hear same problem

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faberlle
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Well, similar problem...

I bought a 2002 XLS 4x4 in October of 2001. 2 weeks following purchase, transmission was shifting quite hard. Within the following year, it went to the dealership approximately 4 times to find out why. All tests ran came back with no results, saying the PCM reports the transmission to be operating normally. Each time I was handed a printout of a TSB regarding the adaptive learning strategy of this transmission and how soft/firm shifts are normal.

January 28th of 2003, it was 12 degrees outside. I was on my way to work, and was told by a friend to take an alternate route to work due to an accident on the freeway. 2 miles from home, it shifted extremely hard and started to shake back and forth when I would put gas to it (which it had done this 2 times before this). I pulled off on the side of the road, turned it off, waited a few, and turned it back on. Before, this had fixed it. Not this time. It continued to rock back and forth. Then I noticed my RPM's were at 5000 and I wasn't even going 30 mph. It got worse, it was at 6000 rpm's and I was barely able to maintain 20mph. By this time, a haze was entering my vehicle, and I was smelling something burnt. I stopped, called roadside assistance, and it was towed in.

Transmission went out, needless to say. It had only 19,000 miles on it.... luckily under warranty, and 2 days of waiting, a Ford certified rebuilt transmission was put in. Now I have just rolled over 30,000 miles, and it's been shifting beautifully ever since then.

So I wish you luck.....

People always badmouth Ford, and other ones... but I've come to learn that the first year of a vehicle's life is working out the bugs in the vehicle that the factory couldn't foresee.... then after that first year or so passes by, it's a dependable vehicle. Maybe I should by a 1-year old vehicle next time around......... hmmmmm

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Tim

I would not mind if For had a appropiate waranty but as a matter of fact it is the worts waranty offered on a new car

Reply to
Pedro Faberlle

Hate to burst your bubble......

Ford/Mercury (Ford), Chevrolet/GMC/Pontiac/Oldsmobil (GM), and MANY others have the 3yr/36,000 mile warranty standard.

The only deviation from this are the Luxury vehicles... like Lincoln (a Ford product) will give you 4yr/50,000 mile warranty. Same goes for BMW and I'm sure most of the luxury cars have that as standard.....

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Tim

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Pedro Faberlle

According to MIT, the average mileage per year for passenger vehicles and light trucks is about 12k miles per year;

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The US gov't says about the same:
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And that's what I keep hearing for the US. While we all know people who drive more, the average remains about

12K/year.

Where do you get the 15K miles/year number?

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bill

That's true, but would YOU buy a Kia???? I remember when I was still looking around for a Car (not an SUV), and I was warned right and left to NOT get a Kia because they are like toy cars and won't protect you as well as another main-stream car would........ So, I always look the other way when Kia is involved...

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Tim

I have been assuming we're talking about the standard bumper-to-bumper warranty. That being the case, Dodge (not Doge) still has a 3yr/36k mile warranty. They have a POWERTRAIN 7yr/70k mile warranty, but that only covers the powertrain. Albeit that is the parts you'll most likely have problems with down the line anyway, but again, I was responding under the impression of a factory bumper-to-bumper warranty...... so please take it easy.

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Tim

That's ok, and that's what Í'm saying here. If Ford is such a good car, why they don't back it up with a better warranty, not just bumper to bumper because you always will have something breaking down but intead the most reliable and expensive parts of the vehicle (POWERTRAIN). It's hard to belive the a power player like Ford doesn't back up their product like as an example hyunday which offers 10/100 with a toy car. Have a friend with a Nissan Pathfinder wich had rough change of gear, he took it to his dealer and didn't even blink they swap trans and off you go, yes it was under warranty and yes it was over 36,000 miles. So you see all I'm saying is tha Ford should back up their product better or at least try to help their customers so they can keep their vehicles original.

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Pedro Faberlle

No, I wouldn't buy a KIA. I have bought a '77 Honda Civic CVCC, though. It was what served our needs at the time. Now, a KIA wouldn't begin to fit our needs.

Kias sell, though. That you and I don't consider them to be a good buy doesn't seem to bother a lot of other people. Hey, I wouldn't buy a BMW, either. Whether or not I'd buy a particular vehicle isn't an indicator of it's quality or fitness for a particular need. Thge point is that a longer warranty than 3/36 is not only for luxury vehicles.

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bill

Because in minds of most vehicle manufacturers, the cost of honoring a longer warranty or the cost of building a more reliable vehicle cannot be recouped in the selling price of the vehicle. In other words, the buying public, as a whole, won't spend more up-front to get a vehicle with more long-term reliability.

On the other hand, some buyers are willing to buy extended warranties. I bought one when I purchased my '03 Explorer, but it was $1400 that I spent at time of delivery that I can't even begin to collect on for 3 years or 36,000 miles.

Warranties, like insurance, are a gamble. The buyer is gambling that the initial cost of the insurance or warranty will be offset by future claim costs. The seller is gambling that they will never have to pay a claim. You pay your money and you take your chances.

Bob...

Reply to
Robert L. Burns

Why buy the extended warranty at the time of purchase? Why not wait until your factory is almost up prior to purchasing?

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Rupa Schomaker

All sounds nice, but check this out, I don't know how is it in the states, but here the extended warranty for Ford is run by an insurance company, for example, My Mom have a 98 Windstar LX and bought it the extended warranty, she started to have problems with the front end and took it to the dealership to get it fix, after a week they told my Mom what was wrong with the vehicle but that they had to wait for the insurance to cleared. One more week passed by before they hadthe OK from the insurance company and after that three more days to fix it and now they had to wait for the insurace company to pay because the insurance company owed them a lot of money. Now, my Mom is a retired woman and we (the whole family) ship in to help her out to move around but I'm not and I can't wait a whole month to get my car fix, it is not worth it in addition that she paid around $3,000.00 for it.

This doesn't end here, the second time she took it to get the second A/C unit working again but insurance company said that that wasn't covered, can you beleive this people, apparently by what I read on the insurance paper, it only covered Powertrain and not bumper to bumper, so before going there, find out first if the extended is bumper to bumper (because that's what you are extending in the first place) and what is the correct prucedure to used.

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Pedro Faberlle

Where is here?

Are you sure she got a genuine Ford warranty. The dealer might have sold you an aftermarket warranty. I've had the Ford warranty and it has always been a peice of cake to get warranty repairs. With the dealers even doing more than I asked and submitting it under the same deductible!

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JaWise

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