OH, MY GOD!!!!!!!! STOP DRIVING IT IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Does it "plunk" back to it's original shape? Does it keep the rain off your head?
Don't worry about it. It's just a BIG slightly curved metal sheet, and big
curved metal sheets do that. The hood on my T-Bird looks like it's turning inside
out when the air dryer hits it.
I asked a simple question. I didn't ask for a simpleton to answer.
If someone of reasonable intelligence, experience, and ability would
like to answer my question, please feel free.
On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 10:46:11 GMT, "MasterBlaster"
You may not like the answer, or don't get the humor in it..............he is
correct though. Large areas of sheet-metal act that way. Even other areas of a
car will do the same as pointed out by the Blaster. It is not a safety, quality
or structural issue and is not an Escape only condition. What is this your first
vehicle? Have you not washed your own vehicles? It would seem to me that some
one of "reasonable intelligence" and someone who has "experience" just washing
their own vehicles would understand that and have had come across it before.
The fact is I have owned many vehicles and this is the first one to
have sheet metal this flimsy. It even buckles at Interstate speeds
when passing semis.
That is why I posted the question, and that is why I'd hoped for an
intelligent answer and not some dimwit telling me to never drive the
I don't know why I'm humoring you, but here goes.
1971 Oldsmobile Cutlass S
1969 Chevrolet 1/2 ton stepside
1976 Chevrolet 1/2 ton stepside
1978 Chevrolet LUV
1982 Chevrolet LUV
1986 Ford Ranger
1992 Ford Aerostar
1995 Honda Civic
1998 Honda Civic
1999 Plymouth Breeze
2000 Toyota Tacoma X-cab
and of course the 2001 Ford Escape.
Oh yeah... I also own a Trek 2300, but I've had no problems with it. I
have washed it twice.
Yes, I washed them all. None of them buckled as easily as the Escape
does. The Escape is an otherwise great vehicle, but the buckling sheet
metal concerns me. That is why I posted the original message.
Because I can hear it from inside the vehicle. The weak part is
directly on above the front seats. It's plenty load when it flexes.
This is how just about every new car is. They don't make the metal as thick
and often use lots of plastics and such. Modern cars are also designed to
crumble around you and leave the passenger compartment stiff/intact. In
other words, it's normal.
My girlfriend was crawling over the hood and trunk of my '67 when we wash it
and the roof will bend a little under her weight, but always pops back...
The hood on my '68 has never bent when my girlfriend and I sit on it at the
drive-in movies. I once had 4 people sitting on the hood of my '67 and it
didn't flex. New cars are built to be lightweight and easily crushable...
That means typically if you lean on a body panel while pumping gas it will
often bend or even 'pop' in. If it stays in, that means you've bought a car
that is too new. ;)
Thanks you for the one reasonable and intelligent response I have
received to my question.
I didn't think it was normal either, but I thought I'd check with
other Ford owners, mechanics, etc.
The first thing I noticed about my 97 Bird when I bought it was the
flimsy roof. In one of those really dumb impulse moments I decided to
entertain my granddaughter by driving under a torrent of water coming
off a supermarket roof during heavy rain. Didn't realize till later
that I had caused an indent on the roof in the process.
A couple months later I was involved in an accident that was 100% the
other guys fault. I made a deal with the body shop to fix the roof
while they were repairing the front end. When I wash it now I don't
notice it that much but it made me real nervous in the beginning.
The roof is NOT a crumple zone! If you roll, I should hope the "cage"
above you stays intact. The skin, though, is not part of that structure.
It's true, the only purpose of a roof is to keep the rain off you and keep
the warm air inside(if it's cold out). Sheet metal gets thinner all the
time. The reason, I assume, which hasn't been mentioned yet, is that
Ford(and everyone else) is CHEAP! O.K., to be fair, weight is a factor these
days, too. It wouldn't surprise me if Ford added a brace there after a
sufficient number of owners came in and asked why the roof is so flimsy( I
mean adding this part in production, not adding it to cars already built).
You know, P.R. and all that stuff. There's nothing wrong with it, but if
people think the car is poorly made then sales would presumably suffer. Just
thinking out loud. sorry for the wordiness. Not to be critical, but as an
outside observer I noticed that you characterized the first reply that
agreed with you as "intelligent" and all the others as "dimwitted". just
looking for a particular answer?
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