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We'll be riding bicycles before long unless the Government invests in the world's largest coal-to-oil conversion plant. Also on the list, oil shale
and tar sands conversion plants.
I did not say alcohol production plants...that's a political charade pocked full of false promise. Only hydrocarbon based fuel production yields positive yields of input vs output energy. Alcohol, hydrogen, and every other scheme must be put to rest and buried so we can focus on the real solution for the next 200 years. Beyond 200 years, fusion power hopefully will result in liquid and gas fuel for vehicles (air, land, sea).
We can best wage war on the terrorists and their backer nations by building these plants and becoming 100% self-sufficient on oil. War making in Iraq is not an effective war on terrorists. For those of you who like the Iraq war, you will love the upcoming Iran war and North Korea war. Stay tuned for more wars unless our Government gets some sense and puts the money into conversion plants instead of killing "insurgents" which half the time are ordinary civilian fathers, mothers, and boy and girl children, totally innocent people. Our President should spend less time in church and more time repenting for what misery he has wrought upon innocents in his foolhardy desire to liberate them from dictators and install systems of freedom and liberty... Bless him if only he could perform this miracle right here in the States. (Martha Stewart is a prime example--She shrugged her shoulders and got 2 years in the penitentiary for it because LYING is all it takes for a federal felony--and I bet you thought you had to draw blood or do a stickup to earn prison stripes.)
There is a reason why Congress has not declared this Iraq war. They would not have, will not, and will not ever declare it in the formal way WWII (the last righteous war) was declared. Sure, the Congress voted for the money to wage this President's war -- its to "support the troops". But why would Congress declare a war when the war might go bad as it has; why, because they would have to take the blame. This way, by allowing the President to wage his own personal war, he will get to take all the blame because nobody in Congress will admit to supporting the war as such, only patrioticly supporting the troops by voting for the money. Its perfect political sense and the best way to wage war if it wasn't for all the aluminum boxes coming home filled with other people's dead children. There is zero chance that the President's daughters or any Congressmen's children will come back in a box. Always remember, if a war is not declared, it is illegal under the Constitution as well as international law. Any captured combatent of a nation which wages an illegal war can be treated as "common criminals", just as Vietnam did to our captured soldiers. Its not worth it. Its wrong and immoral.
And its expensive. We can either get our jollies by lashing out at the world and wantonly killing everything that moves, or we can invest the zillion dollars these wars are going to cost us. Invest in conversion plants. Leave the gear in Iraq for the Iraqis to wage their own civil war and it wouldn't suprise me if those murderous savages killed each other off down to the last man and that man will pick up a pistol and blow his own brains out. Bring home the troops tomorrow to save their lives, their health, and the people's money so we can invest it wisely in our future.
Agree with me. That would be real patriotism in action not the phoney kind Washington wreaks of. Still in doubt? Then answer this question: Why don't terrorists bomb Switzerland? Its because their leaders stay out of wars and mind their own business. We are bombed because our Leader noses into wars and wreaks world-wide havoc. The President says we should always be in one war or another and that is contrary to what peace-loving Switzerland thinks. Somebody has got to be wrong and its either Switzerland or the President. Since Switzerland has no terrorist problem, logic tells me Switzerland's in the right and President Bush is in the wrong. The fix is simple. Get rid of Bush and we can get the United States doing like Switzerland does (or more accurately, doesn't). Our terrorist problem will be history (and the oil problem too).
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Why do terrorists focus on the USA????
You mean, really, you don't have a clue? Well, then you could be president, because he doesn't either.
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Just a hunch, but if the USA minded their own business and didn't try to put their nose in everybody else's business, it might be a good start.
Get rid of Dubya.
Get out of IRAK (where are those WMD's), and get out of Afghanistan too.
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El Bandito wrote:

Good question - probably Syria. You do understand that: (1) They did exist without question (2) The law of the conservation of mass is real
But a true liberal never lets reality stand in the way of their politics. So be honest - do you believe in the law of the conservation of mass?
Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x')
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Bill Putney wrote:

Bill, never, I repeat, never, try to inject logic, especially physics, into politics. :-)
It just won't work as politics isn't about what is real and true, it is about what illusions you can create to support your position and accomplish whatever goal you have for whatever reasons you have it.
Two completely different worlds.
Matt
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There are several possibilities... (a) Might be in Syria, as you surmise (b) Might even be in Iran...Iraq fought Iran for a long time, but when the US attacked Iraq, they sent many of their fighter planes to Iran. ???? (c) They may still be there in well hidden underground facilities... (d) They may have actually destroyed the mass of the chemical and biological weapons. They were nowhere close to nuclear weapons of their own craft, but it would not have been out of the question that they could have purchased a couple. Camels don't make the best delivery systems, but ??? Hans Blix could have been correct.
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This would be the most likely place since the Baath party has controlled Syria and Iraq for around four decades, and Saddam was a staunch Baathist. Incidentally, the Baath party (mostly Sunni Arabs) still has plans to retake Iraq. The majority Persian Shiite Iraqis have other plans.

That is true. At the end of Gulf War 1, Iran refused to return Saddam's jets. :-)

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While I might not agree with everything the US does, I have to think of that weed patch in my back yard..... with outside (my) intervention, it remains a small weed patch.... I hate it and I deal with it as I can, but it remains.....
If I didn't try anything at all, that small weed patch would soon own my whole yard (which ain't the prettiest yard to begin with). SOMEBODY has to stick their nose in somewhere and somehow.... To the extremists, the US is todays target... simply because they are trying to put the lid back on Pandora's box.... To the extremists, we are all "infidel dogs" and their interpretation of the Koran has marked every Christian, every Buddhist, every Jew.... and even every Scientologist as "expendable".
Still pissed that the Liberals lost, are you?

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YA that's a good idea, we need Dimocrats in charge.. You think gas is expensive now, I guess you don't remember Carters effort to control the distribution to cut demand that led to the long gas lines, or Clintons 50C gas tax and his 10% 'carbon tax' proposals designed to save the planet? Obviously you forgot about 9/11
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You are free to believe what ever you chose, no matter how convoluted your logic.
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So....what did he say that wasn't true?
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(...)

And what is Bush's annual deficit now?
Did Carter get us into a war which he can't finish?
Carter was a lousy President, however.
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Carter will be remember in the history books for his failure in Iran that has indeed led us into war today, and maybe again tomorrow, as well as the years of stagnation and double digit inflation that wiped out the value of everyone savings, investments and pensions. It was not until almost three years into Reagan's first term until the tax rate cuts lead to the dynamic grow in the country up to the end of the century.
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Price go up not matter who is President. The difference is the Dimocrats raise the tax on gasoline as well ;)
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If Iran is seriously on the path of nuclear weapons (and I think they are, no matter what they say), then somebody is going to have to either be the best damn diplomat ever, or somebody is going to have to pull the fangs of this beast.
If we do it, we further raise the hatred level against the USA. And this is largely our conflict because we shouldered ourself into it, long long ago.
Maybe we should suggest to Israel that we don't really have a dog in this fight....Israel has the weapons to lay waste to everything in Iran, and all those countries already hate them...Let them protect their own backyard.
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