Someone wrote: "b) the unions did not help. everybody likes to get paid more
than they are worth. but to think and to read and to innovate - are they
encouraged by the unions? look at the teacher's unions. keeping dumb
teachers in place at all costs. or the cop unions keeping corrupt cops on
the job, brutal, nasty cops who are lucky they are not in prison
I would agree with some of your comments but not all. First is teachers
union made it hard to get rid of teachers once tenure was put in place.
I do have to disagree with cop unions. Most were reinstated by civil
service boards that are made up of the corrupt city officials friends.
On your comments a unions did not help is totally untrue. Having worked in
both union and non union locations, I can tell you that I been treated
better in union locations then non union locations. Safety conditions are
better in union shops then non union shops I worked in. Union have lost
more then they gained.
Have you every sat in on negotiations? The first thing on a unions wish
list is not wages but better working conditions and benefits. It is not the
union fault health care is so high. It is all of our fault for not taking
better care of ourselves. It is the fault of lawsuits that don't need to be
People formed unions to getter better working conditions then to get better
wages. Delphi is asking workers to go from roughly 28.00 dollars and hour
to 14 dollars and hour, give up their health insurance benefits and
retirement benefits. Delphi wants to cut retiree benefits and only pay a
They are not the only company wanting to do this. I work for a major
chemical company. They did not ask us to take a pay cut but want us to pay
more for our medical insurance. Presently they pay 80% and we pay 20%.
They want to step it back to 70% company and 30% employee and drop medical
on all future retirees. We rejected this idea because the company right now
is making record profits and they are asking us to pay more. The CEO just
got a 45 % pay raise. His profit sharing bonus is at 25% while ours is only
4% of our base salary plus 4% for all overtime pay.
Unions only ask that profits should benefit the low hourly workers as they
do upper management.
If you that concerned about this countries future then buy from American
companies that still have people working in this country and not from
companies that ship a finish product here. Buy union made products.
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