I'd like to get a Ford Factory Service manual CD for my 2000 Explorer
and have looked on Ebay. If you go there and search for "Ford manual
Explorer 2000" you get over a dozen hits and they all make claims
like "This CD-ROM is used by your local Ford dealership
technicians" and the cost is a little is $3.99. My question is what
are these manuals? Are they the real thing? Or pirated copies of the
real thing? Or are they just some crappy manual burned into a CD? I
noticed that a lot of the manuals are called "Ford Truck Repair
Manual" as opposed to "Ford Shop Service Manual". Is there any
way to tell which are the real manuals? Is there a difference?
The factory service manuals used by the dealer (the red discs - not the
yellow discs) are time limited. A disc dated Jan2005 will not work now
unless the copyright protection is defeated.
For those that care, all of these discs are marked with a variation on "not
For those with a high level of integrity (I'm not passing judgement, I'm
stating fact) factory manuals are available at http://www.helmsinc.com
I'm surprised that you don't realize that subscription costs for the on line
manuals is rather steep... Add that if the 'net goes down, so do your shop
manuals. SL does NOT use CDs, we use the DVDs and if inford is down, we
still have our manuals. - man, you still can get anything accurate. Little
wonder you lash out with the failure rate you are running.
FWIW, I have the DVDs loaded onto the hard drive on two of my laptops.... no
need for DVDs, the internet or inford....
Sometimes that works. But it depends on what the CD software does after it
determines that the CD has expired. It may put a registry entry that
prevents the software from ever working on that particular computer (unless
you finjd the registry entry or reinstall the OS). If that is the case,
unless you set the date back BEFORE you put the CD in, the CD will never
In addition, the CD software might read the time from an external clock over
the internet, like the clock on a Ford computer. In that case, the CD will
never work again.
Maybe but two years ago there was not an expiration date
built into the DVDs. I wonder who is liable in this
situation - the people buying the discarded (sometimes they
are brand new) DVDs or the people selling them or both? The
people selling them on Ebay don't mention that they have a
copywrite. I would guess that the Original Ford purchasing
agreement includes some boiler plate text that the purchaser
has to agree to that covers redistribution. What you buy off
of Ebay is not a copy, it is the original. I noticed after I
got my last DVD, that it is labeled, "Not For Resale." So am
I a criminal for purchasing this item? As far as I know it
is not "stolen" as such. It seems like if Ford wanted to
stop this, they could go after Ebay directly. I am surprised
that Helm isn't going after Ebay.
Personally, I think Ford should sell theDVDs cheap or give them out when
they sell a car.
I suspect Ford could go after the people selling the DVDs. It depends on the
wording of the contract between Ford and the orginal buyers.
I don't think they can go after Ebay, but if Ford asked Ebay to not allow
the sales of Ford CDs that are breaking copyright law, then Ebay would
My guess is that Ford doesn't think this is enough of a problem to try and
Just a quick search pulled up a number of hits. Item numbers: 7964681345,
5570633966, 7965853292 seem to be the actual Ford Service CD's (or copies). I
bought many of them for my own, and customer vehicles. They are the actual
versions of the service manuals printed by Helm. The reason they are so
Ebay is because they are updated periodically and the old discs are tossed out
(usually into a Technicians toolbox). There are a lot of the originals floating
and they are easily copied.
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