"one of the hoariest of urban myths: That forcing higher fuel economy
standards on American car buyers is what's needed to encourage more
energy-efficient vehicles and make Detroit more competitive with its
Must be my short term memory failing me, but I just can't recall any time
that the price of gas ever plummeted. Regardless of conservation practices,
or any other influences intended to effect the market, the price has stayed
where it was. It is a false logic that believes that conservation will have
any impact on the price of gas at all.
And when was the last time you did this? What were those oil prices? What
had they been before and after? What did the price of gas drop (plummet...)
to after your conservation efforts?
I must have missed that huge downswing in the price of fuel. Damn - I hate
it when that happens.
Many of us find it easy to miss out on the events that never really occur.
|Must be my short term memory failing me, but I just can't recall any time
|that the price of gas ever plummeted.
The last significant price drop in my memory was around the end of the
first Gulf War. Regular in my area of New York was under $1 per
gallon... and it stayed that way for quite awhile.
Around the northeast US, and I suspect most of the US, it would be a very
rare thing to see a $1.00/gallon swing in the price of gas - unless of
course we're talking about an increase. As prices have declined some from
the high of a short time ago, we really have not seen a $1.00 decline over a
period of greater than a year.
I do not know where you live, but here in Ontario, gas is at 95.1 cents a
liter. Was at 92.2 Wednesday, and it's been 95.1 since Friday. Hasn't
dropped below 92 in MONTHS as far as I can recall. As for the OP, he made
it seem like gas was $2.00, then dropped to .50 cents.
Must be nice :-P I'm in Durham and I don't recall seeing anything below 92
in several months. In fact, when I saw it at 92 a few days ago, I was
really stunned, as it seemed to have been hovering at 95 or so for a couple
Only thing I see that will force higher fuel economy is for gas to get up to
around $10 a gallon. Most people have not even slowed down at $3.Over the
road trucks use alot more fuel than cars do and get alot less gas mileage. I
was told they get around 4mpg loaded! Maybe detroit could help them with gas
Over the road trucks also move a lot more material per gallon of fuel
burned than cars.
A 80,000 lb truck will move 320,000 lbs per mile per gallon of fuel
while a 3000 lb car that gets 40 mpg will move 120,000 lbs per mile per
gallon of fuel. Trucks often get high mileage, more on the order of 5 or
Based on your figures, we could save a lot of fuel by putting seats in those
trailers and loading up a bunch of people all going to the same place. All
we need is a good name for it and people will want to ride the new vehicle.
How about calling it the People Truck? Or the People Hauler? Or the
Omnibus? Yeah, then it would be shortened and just called the Bus.
Think it would ever work?
I'd like to see some backup of this math.
tractor trailers can haul 100,000 legally, to 108,900 legally in the
state of maine, this is slighly higher in canada up to 137500 on a
btrain, btrains get around 4mpg... up to 5 depending on the roads.
What can a diesel 1ton truck haul at 20mpg?
Put your numbers in, and you get similar results. Trucks can haul more
stuff in terms of tons of material hauled per mile per gallon of fuel
burned. You want to argue that trucks can haul a 500,000 lbs of stuff a
mile per gallon burned, go ahead. But the point is that when hauling
things, trucks are more efficient at hauling stuff than cars.
Railroads even more so.
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