Most cars in Europe have manual trannies?

me@privacy.net wrote:

How about - M P G.......

On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 03:57:43 -0500, "75yrs.experience"


Quite a few automatic equipped cars are actually rated higher in mpg
than their manual equivalents.

4ax.com:


That's a fairly recent development.
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On 12/26/2011 10:47 AM, clare@snyder.on.ca wrote:

But do those automatics get better mpg in real life
than manuals ?

And since in Europe you pay for the car 2 or 3 times
over with the taxes, a $1000 automatic becomes a
$3,000 automatic.

Lynn

wrote:


 In answer to the first question - yes - if you do not know how to
drive the standard for economy. The "smart" automatics are ALWAYS in
the right gear.

On 1/4/2012 10:50 PM, clare@snyder.on.ca wrote:

...but it's also simply a 'culture" thing....I work for a Swiss company
and the guys I talk to simply just like it.  They said that when you
drive a car, you *drive* a car.  They also don't like cup holders and
most cars have sun/moon roofs as well....It's a culture thing...

lol...one of the guys said the following when I just asked:

"You drive you car, drink coffee at a cafe, eat at a restaurant, and
watch television at home...You do not do all at the same time, or you
enjoy none of them correctly"

Initial cost, cost of maintenance, reliability, fuel economy.
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On 12/25/11 7:34 PM, me@privacy.net wrote:

I think people in Europe are more enthusiastic about driving and a
manual transmission is a more rewarding driving experience.  A true car
enthusiast will always prefer a manual over a automatic.

Just my opinion

wrote:


 It really depends on the driving, too. It sure sucks to be stuck in
gridlock traffic with a standard tranny and a heavy clutch!!

 I like a standard in a "fun car", and an automatic in my "work car" -
but the new automatic  with manual mode - tiptronic or paddle shifters
- can be just as much fun as a "real" gearshift car.

I've long assumed that modern auto trannys *should* be more reliable (in average
usage) than manuals, but I've not seen any "statistics" that support the notion.
Anybody seen any? Or intelligent discussion of relative reliability??

I hassle the idiot drag-ass traffic in my ancient ThunderChicken with 4-speed
auto, but, on a really nice day, I limit myself to 2 wheels (old Hurricane) with
6-speed close-ratio (and wouldn't have it any other way).

  Cheers,
  Puddin'



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