Wall Street Journal
...Once a rarity, traffic cameras are filming away across the country. And
they're not just focusing their sights on red-light runners. The latest
technology includes cameras that keep tabs on highways to catch speeders in
the act and infrared license-plate readers that nab ticket and tax
Drivers -- many accusing law enforcement of using spy tactics to trap
unsuspecting citizens -- are fighting back with everything from pick axes to
camera-blocking Santa Clauses. They're moving beyond radar detectors and CB
radios to wage their own tech war against detection, using sprays that
promise to blur license numbers and Web sites that plot the cameras'
locations and offer tips to beat them...
You obviously have never driven in Chicago traffic, or you would understand
that the above sentence is an utter impossibility here. People are already
getting rearended here because they jam on the brakes on a yellow now at
these redlight cameras.
Sir Charles THE Curmudgeon
Am I the only one that sees the idiocy in this? I'm going to do something
wrong to avoid the guy behind me who MAY be doing something wrong....
We have rules in society... because we need them. There is a rule about the
intersection that could keep you from plowing into another car... There is a
rule for following cars that could keep the guy behind you from driving into
you... But, by and large, there are many people that refuse to follow these
rules (and they will use about any limp-dick reason they can conjure up to
Just think - if we all followed the rules and paid attention to what we are
doing... we wouldn't even need traffic cameras...
Every summer, they have about one week in our town where they put on a
traffic "blitz". Zero tolerance is the keyword and they bring RCMP in from
other areas just to avoid any personality things. They would rather have
people obey the rules so that they might go home safe and alive rather than
have to spend a week writing tickets only to have emergency services scrape
cadavers off the road for the rest of the year.
Dear Dumbass never having driven in Chicago traffic,
After you've driven in Chicago and suburban traffic for a year, then get
back to me. I've been driving in Chicago and suburban traffic for the
better part of 15 years now. If you jam on your brakes in any situation,
you risk getting rearended because most drivers here follow too close. I
often have people following me so closely I can't even see their lights,
they're below my trunk lid.
I'm surprised we don't have multicar pileups near these 'red light cameras'.
Now why don't you go f f f f fade away? (Talking 'bout my generation)
Sir Charles THE Curmudgeon
Dear sir Dumb ass, ive been driving in Chgo for 35 years, got you
It's doesn't matter anyway. Put too many cars in too small a place in ANY
city in America and humans will behave the same way. Charles is attempting
to portray Chicago as special, but New York, Boston and Rochester are the
Yes, but I don't have the time to stop and explain to the officer why I have
a car in my trunk . . . . I've gone without a serious accident since 1988
and I'm trying to keep it that way.
Sir Charles THE Curmudgeon
It's a well known fact that speeding doesn't cause accidents, it's
driver's not paying attention. But you can't get someone for not
paying attention. You can get speeders, so that's what they go after.
The easy way to get rid of the cameras is to drive less than the
posted limit. Once they do their yearly consultation and evaluation
then the cameras will be found too expensive to operate.
But if they can't raise money that way, then they'll raise it some
other way. Isn't it better to have law breakers pay the "hidden tax"
than to have everyone pay it?
Being intoxicated is a large factor, but speed is frequently a
contributing factor. Stopping distance is proportional to the square
of the speed. The severity of accidents goes up even more as speed
The idea is to get people to obey the traffic laws, not raise money.
I understand that part. Cops have long used zealous prosecution as a
mechanism. Usually (but certainly not always), however, if you aren't
breaking a law, they
dont catch you in the snare.
Wrong. At least with RLC's often the yellow interval is shorter than
MUTCD recommendations to force people to either jam on their brakes for
a yellow and risk being rear-ended, or else get a ticket.
I would imagine that speed cameras are set up similarly, I know there
was one on New York Avenue leaving DC eastbound that was notorious, I
think that the road was posted something like 25 or 35 MPH, it is a four
lane divided highway!
replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.
Well, Nate, here in Texas it is not against the law to enter a light on the
I avoid doing it if I can.
If the speed is posted at 35 or 25 mph, then that is the law. We may not
like it but
that is just tough.
I got a ticket last year for excessive speed in a construction zone. It
turns out that
I had already left the construction zone, but that meant nothing to the
I could have fought it and probably lost. I dont like it, but it served the
making me a heck of a lot more observant.
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