push button start

why would anyone think push button start is an option worth wanting or paying for?

What a foolish novelty

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Picasso
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My first experience with push button start was with a friends 06 Corvette... Calling it a foolish novelty is one point of view, I suppose. If you don't like it - don't buy it.

I found it ever so convenient - no fumbling with a key ring, no looking for a key slot (sometimes these aren't intuitively placed). The only downside is that one must hold the button depressed for a few seconds to initiate shutdown (one of the problems facing some Toyota owners as their eyes get really big). Personally, I like it.

Now... how do you feel about active park assist, adaptive cruise control, blind spot detection, adaptive headlights, SYNC and some of the other new technology making it's way into production cars...

Mere trinkets? Or useful safety and/or convenience devices?

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Jim Warman

Not really. If a car is going to have a built in factory anti-theft system that communicates with a key fob in your pocket then it's just more convenient to use a push button and not have to bother getting out the key. It also lets you lock and unlock the doors without having to take anything out of your pocket. Is it worth paying extra for? That's up to the buyer, it's their money, not yours.

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Ashton Crusher

FWIW, even before the adaptation of "push to start" technology, Ford had begun to stop using locking steering columns on some models... The PATS system works pretty good to prevent theft. If somebody really wants your wheels.... God made roll off tow trucks and wheel lift stingers just for them.

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Jim Warman

On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 00:08:41 GMT, "Jim Warman" wrote Re Re: push button start:

Trinkets.

Reply to
Caesar Romano

I have read that some manufacturers do have a 'panic' mode where it recognizes multiple pushes within a few seconds as meaning 'turn off immediately.' That should be a mandatory safety feature on vehicles with pushbutton start.

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Andrew Rossmann

An excellent idea and one that I wouldn't have thought of... People that are in a panic rarely use any logic (like Windows operating system - to turn off your computer push ?) when they act. One down side, however, could have the car shutting off over bumps... trading one safety feature for another...

Having said that. as time passes, these things are made more and more intuitive... let's look at something as mundane as power window switches.

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Jim Warman

I wouldn't pay for it, but the presence of push button start would not prevent me from buying a car.

Ed

Reply to
C. E. White

Did Ford start using smaller Keys on the PATS systems?? My 99 GT has a big fat PATS key. My 2007 Crown Vic has a plastic head key but it's not much larger then a regular key.

Reply to
Ashton Crusher

Are you talking about remote start with the pushbutton on the key fob? It's kinda nice in cold weather when you can warm the vehicle up without going outside. Finish your breakfast inside then go out and drive away in a warm vehicle - nice!

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Happy Trails

SYNC i would take in a minute, and commend ford for developing such a thing. I hope this is as good, and as big as it can be for ford. EXCELLENT. (no unfortunatly i don't have one) This should have been around 10 years ago no question.

Active headlights, didn't the Tuckers have these back whenever it was they were made? 40's or was that a fixed light? did the packard or hudson also have a 3rd light on some model?

Park assist? Hardly necessary... perhaps for your wife so she doesn't ding your new harley davidson f150.

Adaptive Cruise control, never used it, but I think i would definatly use this option... and would grow to love it. should be standard on next F150. My XL doesn't even have cruise!

Blind spot detection never seen it...

Reply to
Picasso

no, the actual push button on the dash to start the car. i myself think the remote starter may be a luxury... but my wife likes it when taking the baby out in the -30 deg C mornings.

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Picasso

Anything that will allow a driver to concentrate on his driving is going to be good... The downside is that many drivers will be trying to learn how to use this feature when they should be concentrating on their driving. Common sense ain't.....

Adaptive headlights don't feature a "cyclops" eye... I consider this as being one option that shouldn't be necessary. Sadly, some people will always drive faster than their headlights allow. In areas with a lot of big game animals (such as my area), smart people make allowances to avoid the eventuality. However, an animal in a ditch is unpredicatable and adaptive headlights wont make their actions any more predictable.

Park assist? There are a lot more people that CAN'T parallel park the first attempt than can... Fewer that can do it without trading paint in some manner... You should road test a car with active park assist at least once. It will scare the diddly out of you since it can eyeball you into a spot you wouldn't believe. Downside.. it's good enough to park you in a spot you might not be good enough to get out of....

Adaptive cruise control.... they've had problems with it in "flatlander" areas (southern Saskatchewan and similar). If the radar sensor doesn't "see" stuff for a while, it assumes that it isnt working properly and will disable the system. Upside, it will keep some preoccupied or hypnotized idiot from having an accident. But this is the kind of accident avoidance "meddling" that so many seem dead set against...

Blind spot detection... a brain fart on my part since the actual terms would be blind spot information system and cross traffic alert system.... The blind spot information system being the part I like.... and the cross traffic alert system being the part I don't... both of these being served by basically the same sensor/module group.

None of these will replace attentive driving... None of these will replace common sense.... any of these might help a decent driver recover from a lapse of attention, a bad decision or a down home brain fart... None of them will make a bad driver "good".

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Jim Warman

Ours isn't what you could call a "car selling dealership".... The cars that I do see have the 'new' IKE fob.... This is a key with the remote keyless entry integrated into the key itself... Technology is advancing with each new model change... I spend a lot of time trying to keep abreast of the latest developments in our product line... It can be tough.

Reply to
Jim Warman

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:24:50 -0400, snipped-for-privacy@snyder.on.ca wrote Re Re: push button start:

Well said.

Reply to
Caesar Romano

Right. However, we didn't have to put up with any of this. Do we elect our representives in government? And can we vote for someone else?

Reply to
dr_jeff

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 07:32:15 -0400, dr_jeff wrote Re Re: push button start:

Correct.

We do.

We can.

But "we" don't.

I do, and probably you do too and a perhaps 3% of the electorate do also; not the rest of the mindless drones that are called citizens of the U.S.

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Caesar Romano

In message , Caesar Romano writes

And the system is rigged so you can't vote out all, only the worst.

Reply to
Clive

You did. Better than 90% of what you are putting up with now was started by the last administration. You sure can't blame the poor sucker that's in power right now for the pile of shit he stepped into when he was elected.

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clare

snipped-for-privacy@snyder.on.ca wrote in news:8rfaq5h8lk0kglmgrqdb8n437l05qqilqp@

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ha ha ha 90% you are so full of it. It happened to start for ernest back in about 1920s in fact. The current ultra liberal or socialist is just the most recent in a long line of anti constitution idiots for a long time. KB

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Kevin

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