Re: Challenge every Red Light Camera Ticket!

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represent, along with politicians, beauroRats, world leaders, and scuzbags a control over our lives day in and day out. WE must stop the insanity, you do have a choice, no matter what it is, you have a choice. We are weak against them, is what they want us to feel. Sure we are free, but suppressed at the same time. In other words we are really not that free. They arrange loans to us so we can have the nice 3 bedroom house c/w white picket fence and eat home made apple pie. We ultimately pay the price, most of us are living around the "too much month at the end of the money" lifestyle as it is. But how many of the average employees at your work place are getting any further ahead? Ask yourself this If you could start your own business and never pay a dime of tax again, WOULD YOU DO IT?) And because of the sudden found tax loopholes those bastards have for themselves, you could take advantage of those too! So what are you waiting for? Come on, you guys are smart? Or did the public school system help tap in to less than about ten percent of your potential? Did you buy a self help/motivational cassette tape? And I don't mean to lose weight. Then obviously you have been suppressed. The class of people your parents and their parents, parents were able to hang out with would be in no doubt a long line of simple folk with little means to better themselves too. You needed to be born with in the stench of god given wealth, right? The bloodline of the guy/gal with a doctorate from Yale(In any discipline)That's the family you want to become part of, as your chances at true success is now ten times of those of you and me who are reduced to axe grinding through life. This is a true controlling effect. High fluting bankers love us, we make them rich, they keep the interest at a rate that we can just bear, so we can work ourselves to the bone. Then we educate our children by those standards as set out in the public school system so they too can repeat in life as we have. So pay as little tax as possible, cheat if you have to, don't think the BeauroRats don't. Challenge any of those carefully hidden tax grabs ie Red light cameras, Photo-Radar if it returns Etc. Folks these days it seems everyone's got their greedy F&*&^&& little hands in our pockets.
dan h.
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there for ticketing purposes. Some cities have them setup for real time monitoring. Interesections with unusually high traffic accidents will be monitored real time so that there is no delay in dispatching emergency personnel to the scene.
Don Manning

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says...

They could spend a bit of money on getting an engineer to study the intersection to see why it is so dangerous. Once they identify the cause, they can come up with a solution. Having a camera there to send help when necessary is better than nothing, but not by much. ----------- Alex
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More and more, especially in urban areas, signals and boulevard stops are becoming merely suggestions that motorist follow/heed.
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i've often wondered by they can't design a traffic light situation to indicate that the green has gone "stale" by the green light start to flash slowly about 2/3 the way through the light cycle and increases the flashing frequency until the yellow light comes on. this way, if you are approaching the intersection, you have knowledge ahead of time whether or not the green light is in the process of changing and just when it is going to change and can adjust your driving accordingly.
i don't know if it will cut down on traffic accidents because there will be certain per centage of drivers who will take their chances, but if they followed this rule, it appears to be a strong case for the stop light camera even more so, because these drivers are truly the ones who are running the lights.
just my .02 cents.
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symptons of a larger problem. ---------- Alex
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Good thing most states wont allow these as you have to be handed a citation in hand in person at the time of the infraction by the officer who witnessed the infraction.
Once in a blue moon, you read in the paper about the occasional challenge to a citation that a cop mailed to the registered owner of the vehicle. In my state, every single one of those gets tossed as they are "constitutionally invalid". The problem is, most people just pay up and don't fight.
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On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 00:50:07 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio

Maybe this is why I haven't seen a lot of these cameras in Texas: the traffic code there states that if a driver enters an intersection legally, he/she can leave the intersection legally.
Therefore, it doesn't matter if the light turns red while you're in the intersection-- you don't get a ticket so long as the light was yellow when you entered it.
There is no ability to shorten yellows to trap drivers so the profit motive just ain't there.
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BTR1701 wrote:

Sure there is, even so. To give you an extreme example, let's say that there's a 50 MPH speed limit on a road you typically drive. The yellow light at a camera-controlled intersection lasts only 0.5 second. You may see the light turn yellow while you're a few hundred feet away and (logically) assume that it's going to last 4-5 seconds based on the speed of traffic, so you keep your foot in it, as you could probably barely stop before the intersection without locking 'em up as it is, and you will likely have cleared the intersection within 5 seconds if you maintain speed. However, the light turns red before you enter the intersection, and smile! you know the rest.
An extreme example, but the same sort of thing happens all the time with RLC's, just not quite as short yellows.
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BTR1701 wrote:

You haven't thought it thru very well. The yellow is there to warn the drivers that it will turn red in a few seconds. If it turns red too qickly, then entering the intersection "legally" (i.e., on the yellow) doesn't apply (because there's this thing called "finite stopping distance").
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