Re: Formula Zero, The First Hydrogen Racing Car

I wonder if anybody has completed a study on the effects of water in the exhaust in the cold parts of the country? Will the be ice forming in areas where cars must sit in traffic, at traffic lights and stop signs? Is
a fuel that currently cost the equivalent of $18 a gallon of gasoline, before road taxes a viable alterative to gasoline and diesel fuel? ;)

http://www.greenautomotive.co.cc/2009/09/formula-zero-first-hydrogen-racing-car.html
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Mike Hunter wrote:

Water is one the components of car exhaust now (completely burning gasoline and diesel fuel produces carbon dioxide and water). So, is there ice forming in the areas where cars must sit in traffic now, like at traffic lights and stop signs?
One also has to realize that to make hydrogen, one has to use other sources of energy, like electricity or natural gas. Is less CO2 made to power a vehicle with hydrogen when accounting for this as well as the energy needed to build the infrastructure?
Jeff

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Apparently you have never seen a bus stop where they are using hydrogen, it that is what you believe, dr_jeff, or mind paying $70 for a gallon of LH. ;)

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As a rule, it is rare for our region to have a winter go by without at least one week of -40ish weather... -30C is routine.
Back in the early 80s (and more recently with the early 21st century Focus), the Escort/Lynx cars had a nasty habit of freezing off the exhaust systems. Slow speed, in town driving combined with short trips that didn't allow the car to warm up completely would give us a stall, no restart concern.
The first few were tough to diagnose since they would be towed in toward the end of the business day and would be left to overnight in the shop - of course they would start easily in the morning with no trace of the root concern.
The source of the ice blockage has proven to be the muffler... current designs seem to be working to prevent repeat concerns.

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I am a big Air Products stockholder, as a result I had the opportunity to drive a hydrogen powered Toyota last year at Air Products Headquarter in Allentown Pennsylvania. One could not help but notice all the water that was accumulating on the ground.
As an aside it took around 25 minutes to re-fuel.

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