I think you better just give up this whole line of reasoning.
I'll take 400 net horsepower over a 426 any day. Even if the superior
performance of new Chryslers is all tires, I'll take it just because of the
tires too. And the gas mileage, and the build quality, and the electrical
system, and the air conditioning, and the body stiffness, and the handling,
and the durability, and the emissions, and the seats, and the radio. Can't
think of a thing about the old Hemis that was actually better. I never even
liked the styling.
Those of us old enough to remember such stuff recall:
The 426 hemi was built to compete against the Ford and Chevy 427 engines in
stock car races of the mid-60s. In order to qualify as a "stock" engine, a
minimum of 500 had to be produced and installed in cars available to the
public at dealerships. At the time, the Fed limited stock engine horsepower
ratings to 425 hp, thus the 425 hp rating of the 426 hemi.
The problem was (or not really a problem) that many people that bought the
original hemi from a dealership and put the car on a dyno were surprised and
delighted that they actually produced as much as 550 hp as delivered.
It also didn't take a lot of money or mods to tune these beasts up to around
BTW .... regarding the weight questions on the new Charger versus the old
.... I have a '69 Charger R/T (440 not 426). Weight is 3,636 lbs.
Those things drove poorly, though, you have to admit if you've had the
pleasure. 80/20 weight distribution isn't going to be the hot ticket, and
they've all bit the dust. The Seville is still around, back to rear drive.
I had a couple of Toronado daily drivers for years. Nice car, but drove
like a pig.
I agree with the general direction of lymee's post - GM makes too many
jellybean-type rental cars. Bad for their image, at least in my mind. Ford
makes a lot of them too, to be fair. When the big 3 bought their rental car
companies back years ago, I guess you could say there was an image cost to
On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 23:30:44 -0400, Joe rearranged some electrons to form:
Ford no longer owns Hertz, but they are providing these:
I was in Boston this week, and Hertz had FOUR of them on their lot. I
would have rented one, except they wanted $200/day, and I would have had
trouble justifying that on my expense report. :-(
David M (dmacchiarolo)
Imports sell to rental car companies too, they are just not as successful at
getting many fleets to buy their vehicles. The Korean do a better job of
doing that. The Koreans have a larger share of the fleet courier cars
business than the domestics, Europeans or the Japs. ;)
What chages are they planning for the mustang?
The mustang GT is a well done piece. Best bang for your buck for sure,
if you are looking for good styling, good power, and a good daily drive.
I don't know why you would look any further, even if the camaro was
still around, it's styling looked like a riced out firebird from 1993,
and didn't even perform overly impressively. It would probally still be
overpriced even if it was there to compete...
Todays Mustang GT has the 4.6V8 is a better engine than the 302, 300 HP and
345 FP of torque. The limited production Cobra has the engine from the Ford
GT with a supercharger and 500 HP and 445 FP of torque from what I've heard.
The MSRP for the coupe is 40K, 45K for the convertible but dealers are
getting 5K to 10K over MSRP. Every Ford dealer gets one, Presidents Award
dealers get two.
Few. I have a 2007 GT Convertible on order. After two reds a black and
another red since '99, I picked a new color, 'Alloy' as dark metallic grey,
and added the hood scope. I should have it in two weeks.
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