Re: R.I.P. General Motors (1931-2006)

I guess that explains why GM, Ford and Chrysler still outsell Toyota and every other import.
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Mike Hunter wrote:

Naw, it just means that it takes the three of them to outdo one Japanese auto maker. (Though I understand that there are no longer any "american" or "japanese" brands -- the difference is who runs the company, the suits or the engineers.)
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Volume has nothing to do with quality or value. Watch the sales trend, GM is sinking fast and Toyota is rising fast.
Toyota just expanded a second new factory in Canada before they started construction. That factory will also ship it's modest sized SUV model to Japan. The Toyota engine plant in WV is continually expanding and I believe they are now up to 10 factories in the USA.
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And GM, Ford and Chrysler still outsold Toyota and every other import by hundreds of thousands, even millions more vehicles in 2005. Obviously hundreds of thousands and millions of buyers do not agrees with your opinion of who makes the best vehicles ;)
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Top-posting troll Mike Hunter wrote:

No, they did not, you bald-faced liar. And Toyota is no more an "import" to the entire world than GM and Ford are.

Not obvious at all, dumbshit. As has already been explained to you countless times, most people don't buy what they consider to be the "best vehicles". They buy what they can afford, based on perceived value and often, yes, a strong bias for "the home team".
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Apparently those hundreds of thousands and millions of buyers that buy more domestics than imports do not agree with YOUR opinion either, dizzy AKA Stupid, Idiot, Troll, Moron etc
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Mike, Please post the statistics related to car sales in Japan, England or France. It's my guess that Honda and Toyota sold more cars in those countries than GM. Jason
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I agree with you. You understand statistics and market trends much better than the other posters.
One of the other factors that I don't believe anyone has mentioned is related to car sales in foreign countries. Anyone that has visited a foreign country or has access to car sales data from foreign countries will tell you that Honda and Toyota sells many more vehicles in foreign countries than Ford or GM. That is related to the bottom line (eg profit vs loss). Jason
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If you are a tv watcher, watch the show "The Amazing Race." It takes you all over the world and shows pictures of what is being driven. The two things I noticed in just about every country are (1) There are very few pickups on the road if any and (2) there are virtually no Big 3 built vehicles driven anywhere.
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Really? Can we assume you have never been to Saudi Arabia, Bahrain or any other of the rich countries of the word?
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