Yes, and why does Toyota have the market share that it does? For one thing,
I've driven my 93 Corolla to 220,000 miles with a lot less maintenance than
any American vehicle I've ever owned. I've never even rolled the odometer
on ANY american vehicle. In our family we've owned or driven:
37 Olds (Engine was so worn by 100,000, the owner was using 50 weight oil.)
52 Chevy (Threw a rod at 4 years old.)
55 Plymouth Belvedere (Body was rusting out at 90,000)
63 Chevy II 300 (Body was rusting out at 67,000)
62 Corvair 700 coupe (Body was rusting out and the engine was having some
major issues at 92,000)
66 Chevelle SS 396 (Body was rusted through the floor in back. And the
engine was not what it used to be.)
95 S-10 (Body was starting to rust at 50,000 and the engine was in 4 times
for repairs and still didn't work right.)
And I have a friend who owns a Ford Escort that she has driven exactly 2
days in the last 6 months. It's earning it's Fix Or Repair Daily badge the
hard way. Actually I think that one is an F***d Over Rebuilt Dodge. I'm
not even going to start the litany of what has been repaired on it in the
last 6 months.
American cars, in the main, just don't hold up like our little Toyotas. Not
without a lot of help. That's why Toyota has made such inroads into market
share. If America wants their market share back, we're going to have to do
something besides business as usual. They should have got that message in
1959, when VW hit 10% of the market.
Charles of Schaumburg
That is because in your opinion Toyotas vehicles are better than those of GM
and Ford. I've owned both domestic and imports lots of them and I don't
find any, that one can buy TODAY, to be significantly better than any other.
In my professional opinion all manufactures are building good reliable
vehicles today and the only real difference is style and price. I'm simply
pointing out that the opinion that some how Toyotas are superior is just
that, Toyota buyers opinion. Toyota buyers bashing the domestics in a NG
The fact is vast majority of buyers selecting from all of the vehicles
offered for sale, TODAY in the US, they are choosing to buy more of those
offered by GM, Ford and Chrysler than they are of all the twenty some brands
Back then did you think VW would put GM out of business as well? ;)
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If America wants their market share back, we're going to have to do
Ohhh, thanks!! That's a great laugh! Talking about the modern condition
of GM, and you bring up vehicles the NEWEST of which is 10+ years old.,
and the NEXT newest is _40_ years old!!!
lemon laws apply, if she bought it new. If not, buyer beware. You could
get a beat up, crapped out Toyota too.
I think that's 100% unfair. Nowordays, I happen to think the big 2
american manufacturers build very durable, reliable cars.
However, that being said, I think the Japanese, sometimes Korean, and
sometimes VW continue to put together their cars as the "whole
package"... ride, quality, reliability, interiors that aren't an
embarrassment, state-of-the-art engines, transmissions that are advanced,
more power from smaller powerplants that get better gas mileage.
I'm so FRIGGIN' tired of seeing a brand new GM car that should be
competitive, and it's continually hamstrung by a series of stupid, short-
sighted, or cost cutting moves! (to be fair, sometimes the current
designs are paying for the short-sightedness of previous management)
Take the Malibu (please). A pleasant car, with FINALLY an interior you
wouldn't be embarrassed by. and a 4 speed auto, when the competition has
gone to 5 speed. a v6 to get the same performance as the camry or accord
4-cylinders. oh, and the v6 is a push-rod. And the styling...bland at
Overall, not a bad car, but it's just another one where all these little
things add up and you just can't make a case that it's a better choice
than an import.
Bluntly, and they're moving this way quickly thanks to Lutz, they need to
STOP making excuses and start making the Japanese manufacturers think
"why didn't we think of that?"
(as a side note, if I was in the market for a near-$20k new car, I'd buy
a Fusion hands down.)
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