The problems that may show up early on are the best indicator of overall
build quality, but the fact remains ALL vehicles fall within the 2% failure
range for ALL manufactured products, that is why they all have a warranty,
even Rolls Royce. Differences of 1% are meaningless. EVERY manufacturer
is making great cars today. The only REAL difference among them is style
My advise, when people ask for my advise because of my experience in
building, selling, and servicing vehicles, is to test drive those three or
more that best suits your needs, then get a total DRIVE HOME PRICE including
selling price, dealer add-ons and financing costs, if you must finance, from
at least TWO dealers of the top two or three models you choose then buy your
vehicle from the dealer nearest you home that gives you the best price and
has the lowest shop rate.
It never made sense to me when I was in retail, why some people are willing
to pay 20% to 30% more for some of our brands because they thought they were
"better." Thinking you will not get one of the 2%, is foolish at best.
The odds are far greater that you will get one of the 98% that are trouble
Personally, I run two cars (trade or sell the one that is two years old) and
get a new vehicle every year. I Email a list of what I want in the
vehicle, to the Group or Fleet Sales Manager(s) at numerous dealerships for
a bid price. Then I visit the dealerships that give me a price, closest to
what I know I should be paying for the car as equipped, and get a total
drive home price if I end up trading my car.
Bull. Not ALL manufactured products have a "2% failure range." If I am
incorrect, prove it.
If every manufactured product had a 2% failure range, then the space
shuttle would never have gotten off the ground, because it is made from
hundreds of thousands of components. Buildings would be falling down all
the time, because girders would be breaking during construction.
If you were correct, then the average number of defects would be about 2
per 100 cars, not 100 to 200 per 100 cars, as it is.
This has been pointed out to you in the past. And you still don't
understand that 100 problems per 100 vehicles is a not a 2% failure rate.
Maybe they all make some good cars, but not all cars are great.
Gee buying something better for 20% or 30% more is a good idea, if it is
better. I paid a lot more for my Apples than I would have for HP's or
Dells, but I got better computers. I definitely got a better buy with
more more expensive Apple than had I bought a cheaper HP or Dell.
What 2%? Just about all cars have defects, with defects around 100 per
You didn't know what you were talking about before.
And you don't know what you're talking about now.
Really? Very few cars are totally trouble free. The average number of
defects per car is about one defecte per car (108 defects per 100 cars).
I hate to be the rammer police but since you made the same mistake
twice in one line... 'Advise' is a verb. 'Advice' is a noun.
Not to mention that Mike is a big fan of trading in cars every couple
years. Depreciation is more important than initial price when you do
that. Of course it is stupid to trade in cars that frequently but if
you are going to do that, you better pick ones with good resale value.
Generally that would be a Honda or Toyota.
A 2% failure rate would be the death of most all medical devices.
Even a 2% complaint rate could lead to a recall (not every complaint
is a failure, but all need to be investigated and probable root cause
That would be a better computer for you, probably not a better
computer for me (even though I prefer them).
I've had one that I know of that was taken care of by the tranny
recall. Of course, some may a different perception of what a defect
is.......they all get counted, even the phantom defects.
Yes....I usually pay cash and drive it until the wheels fall
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