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Re: Toyotas & Honda ETC

While what you say is true, I believe he was referring to vehicles within the SAME price range, not all vehicles. After all the most common reason one picks a particular vehicle is what it costs.

tc wrote: >> Toyotas go too fast, Honda's cant stop >> >> does anyone think auto companies are any different in quality they use >> the same suppliers, same design shops, same material suppliers, assembled >> from parts from all over the world. some use the same tool shops for >> production tooling, same robot suppliers, etc. I know what the replies >> will be try and give some constructive feed back, not GM Sucks, UAW >> problems, overpaid managers,etc > > That's like saying "There's not much difference between different brands > of batteries (or tires as the case may be) - there are only three > manufacturers of all of them anyway - they just put different labels on > them". > > What you're saying is certainly true to a large extent, but the nominal > manufacturer can specify certain optional materials, processes, and > features from the same part/subassembly manufacturer that can very much > affect (and effect) reliability/longevity - just like they can make a tire > with a premium rubber compound or a battery with more "guts" in the same > plant (on the same line) in which they make the inferior product. > > Example: Do you think the nominal auto manufacturer whose headlights turn > cloudy after 5 years have them made by a different manufacturer than the > nominal auto manufacturer whose headlight assemblies are still almost > water clear after 12 years? Not necessarily. What base material did they > specify and pay for? Did they pay extra for a premium UV-resistant > coating, or did they pinch pennies and have one that is only so-so? I > fully expect you can get a variety of equivalent options from any number > of the handful of potential OEM suppliers. > > In that respect, the nominal manufacturer can choose the quality level of > every component based on their own formula of vehicle price point, > long-term public perception of their brand, etc., etc., etc. > > -- > Bill Putney > (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address > with the letter 'x')
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Mike Hunter
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You may be right, as that would explain the high volume of dodge neons and chevy cavaliers on the road, but what brought you to make this statement? I haven't seen any proof of that other than the volume of a certain car on the road, which could be just good marketing.

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Mudflap

One of my several jobs in the automobile business in my time was Group Sales Manager, for one of the largest mega-dealerships groups on the east cost. We operated 26 multi-franchised stores in six eastern states. We sold hundreds of thousands of vehicles from just about every manufacturer.

I can assure you the most asked LAST question we would hear from a buyer before they signed on the dotted line was, "How much is my monthly payment?," or "What amount do I need to write on my check?

That is one reason Toyota sells more four door Camrys than Lexus LS four doors cars. If a buyer can afford a Lincoln they are not likely to buy a Ford, unless it is something like a Mustang. Even then is likely a second or even third vehicle. ;)

You may be right, as that would explain the high volume of dodge neons and chevy cavaliers on the road, but what brought you to make this statement? I haven't seen any proof of that other than the volume of a certain car on the road, which could be just good marketing.

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Mike Hunter

"...In that respect, the nominal manufacturer can choose the quality level of every component based on their own formula of vehicle price point, long-term public perception of their brand, etc., etc., etc."

That covers cars within a given "class", range, or whatever you want to call it, as well as over all classes/ranges/whatever.

I mean, you have to admit that "etc., etc., etc." is pretty damn broad!! :)

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Bill Putney

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