Re: U.S. $3500-4500 cash for clunkers program

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Not much Christianity left in government. I think god wanted people to repect each other. Now that the tax system is used to steal from people by corrupt auto, perhaps another revolution is required? If nothing else so the majority is heard and not herd.
And shutting up about it is what the plutocrats and corrupt want. But some of us will not comply, GM is a company of theives who don't pay their bills but expect others too. Just a bunch of whiny welchers.
People should write their representatives and tell them to cut the bailout corruption or else.
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Yep. And devil has you doing his bidding. Repent!
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Nice thought, but as long as there are those who think the government owes them something (other than honesty and representation), then these individuals will keep voting for those who possess them as a power base.
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Or else what? You are going to sit on your lazy ass and keep bitching on a Newsgroup?
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On Sat, 9 May 2009 19:16:51 -0400, "80 Knight"

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That is what GM management has done by stealing from the pension funds and bankrupting the company. Thank former CEO and the Board of Bystanders

You mean the CEO etc

That is what GM management has done by staeling from the pension funds and bankrupting the company. Thank former CEO and the Board of Bystanders
They are as you claim

They are as you claim

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I hope GM has the guts to pull up stakes and get the hell out of detroit. GM should move to a more friendly state like Mississippi or Tennessee where government and workers are more friendly to big companies. Detroit is in decline along with Michigan. They both need a kick in the ass and boot the democrats out of power along with the big shot partisan labor unions.
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You know what really killed Detroit? The riots in the 60's. There was a black enterprenurial class in Detroit that was not directly dependent on the auto industry. Ever heard of Motown Records? But after the riots, the enterpreneurs moved to someplace less violent. Even K-mart at one time had its headquarters in Detroit, but moved to Troy Michigan in the early 70's. The same can probably be said of South Central Los Angeles, and is definitely true of parts of Chicago. Once the busniesses and decent people started pulling out, the gangs moved in. Here in Chicago, Daley is still trying to control the gangs with ever-stricter gun control laws. It's been going on since 1982 and it HASN"T WORKED A LICK. Most of Chicago except for the tourist areas downtown and a few small enclaves of really rich white folk here and there is a disaster. And as we saw at last years Taste of Chicago, the gangs are starting to close in on the tourist traps.
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Yes, yes I know about all that. Detroit has seen it's better days. They should have diversified long ago, but now it's a car town, big labor town and this is what you get. Likeness to cities and towns built around Army bases. When the base closes there is nothing.
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Wagoner, the one who got away with $20M taxpayer funded pension, was from Harvard.
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The degree was payed for and not earned as he has proved by his actions. He did not know how to run a company except run away from it with the loot.
This is unfortunately true of a lot of so called educated people they just buy their degree.
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They all damn crooks. They get their harvard education and think they are better than the rest of us.
I want GM to move the hell out of detroit and get a fresh start. No reason why they can't be competitive with the overseas brands. And we don't need the big government of obama to feed them money and tell them what to do and how to make the cars.
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Well, you should be thrilled at the prospect of GM importing cars made in China. Could be they'll move their headquarters to Shanghai. Not only would they be competitive with overseas brands, they'd become an overseas brand!
I'm pretty sure Obama isn't going to tell them HOW to make cars but I suspect he will tell them WHAT cars to make. Better him than the idiots on their board of directors who can't seem to get it thru their thick heads that a "competitive" Malibu isn't enough to win back significant market share. How many mediocre sedans does a company with less than 20% of the market need to make?
But I suppose you're right. They don't need a Govt bailout - they just need to go bankrupt. Eliminates all your issues with big govt. And so what about all those workers whose jobs evaporate. Let 'em move to Shanghai and try to organize a union there.
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wrote Re Re: U.S. $3500-4500 cash for clunkers program:

Bingo!
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That is what GM management has done by stealing from the pension funds and bankrupting the company. Thank former CEO and the Board of Bystanders

You mean the CEO etc

That is what GM management has done by staeling from the pension funds and bankrupting the company. Thank former CEO and the Board of Bystanders
They are as you claim

They are as you claim

You are correct. One good think about theives is you can count on them from stealing from pretty much about everyone but the inner circle. CEO Wagoner for example, walks off with $20M in taxpayers cash. He knows the pension has been pilfered.
he moral decay of all involved is amazing. Unions even stood by watching hoping the bubble would not break. Carlyle, haven't heard much from them but they hold the pension. With their DC connections, bet they are one of the corupting forces.
The soonrer GM goes down, the sooner the bleeding can be addressed and can stop.
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Or don't vote for them. Or better yet, recall them. For example, a senator for say Montana benefits not at all with the auto pork, so if they support it recall them. But it is kind of stupid for a lower paid non-union no pension worker in Montana to pay for auto-pork. Not very good representation if you ask me. Might want to ask the senator how much they got paid under the table to support it.
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