Yes, just terminology.
Perhaps strictly speaking. I've had a dealer do warranty work and when I picked up the car they told me "we also did x and y at no charge as part of a service campaign". Didn't upset me - in fact, I was happy to know they would voluntarily do work just to keep my car running well.
How is this voluntary? They do it for free?
Jeff
Yes. If it's a "service campaign" of the sort I mentioned: the factory repairs every car that comes in for service if it requires the update at no charge. Obviously they don't do work that requires payment without authorization.
Once again you are wrong. Did I say more vehicles? Ford may have had more vehicles involved in recalls but Toyota had the highest number of individual recalls issued in 2007 as they did in 2006
Do you think the total number of recalls is more important than the total number of vehicles recalled?
And, if you think that the total number of recalls is more important, why do you think that the newspapers report the total number of vehicles recalled, not the total number of individual recalls?
Personally, I think that Ford's recalling 8x as many vehicles as Toyota is more important than the number of campaigns.
Jeff
"at no charge" means "for free" in most people's world.
Ted
Quite possibly you had people with cruise controls that failed after the vehicle warranty ran out who are looking for a free repair. That to me seems more logical. Who in their right mind would want to go to the hassle of dropping their car off for warranty work that was unnecessary?
Ted
Mike you are not correct - as I have pointed out at least three times. There is no metric you can use that would say Toyota had the most recalls in 2007.
I posted a list of all the 2007 Toyota recalls at least twice. Chrysler, Ford, Nissan, and others all had more individual recalls than Toyota in 2007. Multiple manufacturers had more vehicles recalled than Toyota in 2007.
It is bad enough that you make stuff up, it inexcusable that you repeat this misinformation after you have been given the facts.
Regards,
Ed White
Ford had more individual recalls than Toyota in 2007.
In my opinion it would depend on why the recalls were issued. Millions of Fords were recalled becasue of the Crusie Control Deactivation switch. As I have said in another thread, I though the last bout of these recalls was total overkill.
I have uploaded a spreadsheet with all the 2007 vehicle recalls
All 2007 Toyota Vehicle recalls (equipment recall not included, but some of the vehicle recalls include recalls for dealer / distributor installed accessories):
07V013000 TOYOTA TUNDRA 2005 70B SUSPENSION:FRONT:CONTROL ARM:LOWER BALL JOINT 07V013000 TOYOTA SEQUOIA 2005 70B SUSPENSION:FRONT:CONTROL ARM:LOWER BALL JOINT 07V013000 TOYOTA SEQUOIA 2007 70B SUSPENSION:FRONT:CONTROL ARM:LOWER BALL JOINT 07V013000 TOYOTA TUNDRA 2004 70B SUSPENSION:FRONT:CONTROL ARM:LOWER BALL JOINT 07V013000 TOYOTA TUNDRA 2006 70B SUSPENSION:FRONT:CONTROL ARM:LOWER BALL JOINT 07V013000 TOYOTA SEQUOIA 2004 70B SUSPENSION:FRONT:CONTROL ARM:LOWER BALL JOINT 07V013000 TOYOTA SEQUOIA 2006 70B SUSPENSION:FRONT:CONTROL ARM:LOWER BALL JOINT 07V030000 TOYOTA SCION XA 2006 P701 VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL:CRUISE CONTROL 07V030000 TOYOTA SCION XA 2007 P701 VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL:CRUISE CONTROL 07V030000 TOYOTA SCION XB 2007 P701 VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL:CRUISE CONTROL 07V030000 TOYOTA SCION XB 2006 P701 VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL:CRUISE CONTROL 07V048000 TOYOTA SCION XB 2006 VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL 07V048000 TOYOTA SCION XB 2007 VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL 07V048000TOYOTA SCION XA2007VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL 07V048000TOYOTA SCION XA2006VEHICLE SPEED CONTROLAll 2007 Ford Vehicle Recalls:
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EXPLORER SPORT 200105S28VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL 07V336000 FORD EXPLORER 200105S28VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL 07V336000 FORD CROWN VICTORIA 199405S28VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL 07V336000 FORD F250 199305S28VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL 07V336000 FORD E250 200305S28VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL 07V336000 FORD E150 200305S28VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL 07V336000 FORD E-150 199905S28VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL 07V336000 FORD E250 199305S28VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL 07V336000 FORD E-350 200005S28VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL 07V336000 FORD E-350 200105S28VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL 07V336000 FORD E-150 199705S28VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL 07V453000 FORD EXPLORER 200807S56POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION:COOLING UNIT AND LINES 07V453000 FORD EXPLORER SPORT TRAC 200807S56POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION:COOLING UNIT AND LINES 07V534000 FORD F-750 SD 200807V11ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:ENGINE:DIESEL 07V534000 FORD F-650 SD 200807V11ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:ENGINE:DIESEL 07V541000 FORD F-250 200807C19AIR BAGS:FRONTAL:DRIVER SIDE INFLATOR MODULE 07V541000 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COOLING:ENGINE:DIESELA coplete list of 2007 Vehicle Recalls is at
Are you not they guy that said Toyotas does recalls because they want to take care of their customers? Why is it Toyota owners say Toyota recalls are a good thing yet recalls of others indicates poor quality? LOL
I am not. Toyota does recalls because the law says it does.
Perhaps you can tell us. I don't make the claim.
Jeff
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