Watch out for the OEM tires on the Escape.
Continental/General has already had a RECALL on the Grabber AW on the
Expedition, and maybe the ones on the Escape are next.
I just had one blowout for no reason (other than sidewll separation)
at 15,500 miles, and Ford just wants to hide its head in the sand,
rather than see if maybe it's Ford Explorer/Firestone all over again with
I can't recommend buying a car from a company that wont stand behind its
I've got 9,000 miles on my '02 Escape with no problems as of yet, but
this is the first I've heard of the General's having a problem. I haven't
seen it mentioned in any of the Escape web sites, either.
All that notwithstanding, I don't see where the tires are Ford's product
or direct problem. If there is a tire problem, it is the tire manufacturer's
warranty that should fix it (and their responsibility). That's what
happened on my Ford Probe. The car was still under warranty, but a local
tire place replaced the tire for nothing. Blaming Ford for General's or
Firestone's problems would be like blaming the school because a child
flunked a grade.
I'm not saying that tire makers are perfect. However, in many cases, the
consumer's first reaction is to blame someone else. I see people in
SUV's and vans acting like their last name is Andretti or Foyt. The tire
blows or the vehicle turns over and it HAS to be someone else's fault.
Don't know about you, but the some of the Kindergarten teachers at my
school come into the parking lot on two wheels just as the bell is about
No I do not work for Ford,
I've driven like that all my life and never have tire problems. The
cause of almost all tire problems is low tire pressure. There's not
much else that can wreck them unless you consider driving over curbs
normal. All the other hard driving stuff just wears the tread down.
It's always the customer/consumer's first reaction to blame the manufacturer
or retailer when something goes wrong. It's never the customers fault.
Trust me I know, I've worked in retail for almost 5 years as a cashier and
now as a teller supervisor @ a bank.
It's people like this who destroyed America. This is the kind of brainless
wanker that's lumbered you with "caution, filling is hot" signs on McDonalds
Apple Pies, that's given you all the bings, bongs, beeps, that you have to
put up with whenever you start an american car. This is the kind of idiot
that's given you "Danger, inflammable" signs on cigarette lighters.
Product liability my arse, they're just after something for nothing. Making
a few quick bucks out of a big company, doesn't matter if it's their own
fault their tyre's worn out, blame someone else. Then spend their days
complaining about it in newsgroups. They're the kind of window licking fool
that'd drive a Pinto just incase someone hit it up the arse. "Gee, Wilbur,
if we get burnt to a crisp, it'll be worth $200000.. so let's get one of
those there Pintos.. and fit Firestones to it.."
These guys were the idiot that, as kids, stuck their tongues to the metal
pole on the playground when it was way below freezing.
That tested power outlets by partially removing a plug and dropping a coin or
bottle cap between the prongs...
In the old days, Darwin eliminated them before the lawyers could get to
them... usually by way of gun-cleaning accidents.
But NOW, they make it to maturity and become "damages attorneys", convenient
because Law School will remove any remaining vestige of common sense.
My current favorite
The ones that advertise:
"The dog doesnt actually have to BITE you for you to sue!"
Tell you what ELSE! This guy votes Liberal... he thinks everyone must be
protected against themselves.
Exactly my point. I took it to the dealer, the Service Mangaer shrugged
his shoulders and walked away. I called Ford customer service, they
claimed to call Service manager and said he'd call me back,
and a week later he hasn't.
You Ford apologists missed the whole point. Maybe we should
rename this Newsgroup?
General Grabber AW tires have been recalled in 17" varieties.
Maybe there's an issue in the 15", maybe its worse than Firestone,
but Ford (and its dealers) stonewall the customer, and they care not.
Had the tire blown out while I was on the Interstate, rather than a
local street, the Escape might have flipped, I'd be dead, and Ford would
be set to lose an 8 figure lawsuit.
They learned nothing.
P.S. I now have a lovely set of Michelin X one.
It already addresses "everything Ford" what more do you want.
And I dont think you will do a search on Google and see us as rabid fanatics
as say, BMW or Saab.
What would we find out about your frame of mind if we searched your post
Good for you, you addressed the real remedy. AND You've raised the point.
But even the lofty Michelin has put out crap, particularlly a few years back
when they sold a line of low-priced tires... As "all-season" they had lousy
wet-traction right out of the store.
THe REAL problem to address is you have NO remedy in a case like that.
BTW, I guess I've commuted about 3/4 million miles in the last 25 years and
in that time have never had a "blow-out" tire failure.
When I had one PRIOR to that time, there was adequate warning, esp in tread
separation cases and I bet each and every Explorer blow out case gave some
warning.. but drivers kept on going.
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