We Could Build a Coal-to-Gasoline Conversion Plant

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On 4/20/2006 10:48 PM Jeff spake these words of knowledge:


Jeff, step away from the troll. Just quit replying to him; it's not like he's going to start making sense all of a sudden.
RFT!!! Dave Kelsen
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Why not post a source that disputes what was posted before making a personal attack?
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Top-posting idiot Mike Hunter wrote:

Maybe, "Mike", because you're a troll and a known liar, and you routinely make claims and then refuse to back them up. Nothing you say can be trusted.
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I guess we can assume you did not find a source to support you contention?
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You are the one who has a problem with what I posted and you have yet to post any source that leads you to believe what I posted was not correct. I have not said you are wrong, I said I'm willing to look at where you got your information, I'm still waiting for you to show me were my source was wrong. One can only assume that apparently you are not able to do so ;)
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Will you two read this, it was posted the toher day but you are to busy yelling at each other...
This should help....
The United States and Russia, along with the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC), accounted for 61 percent of the total crude
oil produced in the world in 2004. The United States accounted for 7.4 percent of the world's total 2004 crude oil production, and Russia 12 percent. Because uses for crude oil in its natural state are limited, almost all crude oil is processed into finished petroleum products at a
refinery. The refining process usually involves (1) distillation, or separation of the hydrocarbons that make up crude oil so that the heavier products, such as asphalt, are separated from the lighter products, like kerosene; (2) conversion, or cracking of the molecules to allow the refiner to squeeze a higher percentage of light products, such as gasoline, from each barrel of oil; and (3) treatment, or enhancement of the quality of the product which could entail removing sulfur from such fuels as kerosene, gasoline, and heating oils. The addition of blending components to gasoline is also a part of this process.
Crude oil is measured in barrels. A barrel of 42-U.S. gallons of crude oil yields slightly more than 44 gallons of petroleum products. This "process gain" of volume is due to a reduction in the density during the refining process. In 2004, one barrel of crude oil, when refined, yielded 19.7 gallons of finished motor gasoline, as well as smaller quantities of many other petroleum products
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Precisely the point, you made a claim, I'm only asking you to prove it. I merely quoted something I read, I made no claim. I even directed you to the source for what I posted ;)
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I can see why you are in a quandary, if you can't remember what you posted I can understand why you can not prove what you said. ;)
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I'm not claiming anything I simply asked you what was it you posted. How do you expect somebody else to remember something you posted, after you snipped everything several post ago to suit your bottom posting obsession, when YOU don't even remember what you posted? ;)

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They would make less gasoline and more "other stuff".
The ratio of gas to "other stuff" is not fixed. It's flexible depending on demand.
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That is not true they already 'crack' to make as much gasoline as they can. If the demand was cut in half and lowers the price why would the even want to make more gasoline when the greater profit is in the carbon base? The idea has always been to get rid of the higher distillates to get to the money makers.
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Most plants have complexity ratings. They can vary what they get out. The greater profit isn't necessarily in teh carbon base. So if the price of gas were cut they'd simply make less of it. They wouldn't "burn it off". You just can't be that stupid.
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I'll bet you are not a chemist but if you can figure out way to refine crude to get to the carbon stock, without producing gasoline or other volatiles, I'm sure the oil companies will pay you an awful lot of money to know how you could do it. LOL
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(top posting fixed)

No, Mike. True, you can't "refine" it directly, but they already know how to make what they need from the refined fractions. Your failure to acknowledge that makes you either extremely ignorant, or a troll.
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The price of oil in dollar tems is more attributable to the weakness of the dollar Everything will soon be more expensive in dollars Houses, gold, oil have been paving the road Soon hamburgers, coke, toilet paper etc will follow It is adjusting to the amount of dollars that have been printed Banks around the world are beginning to send the dollars home The negotiations for oil is turning to Euros
You can think of it as a Pizza There is one Pizza and several slices The whole Pizza is worth 100 dollars and one piece costs 1 dollar You print 900 dollars more to pay for the Pizza Now the Pizza is worth 1000 dollars and each slice costs 10 dollars It is still the same Pizza and the slices are the same
You will be going to the store and the hamburger you get is the same size with the same ingredients but it will cost you ten times as much
Just like what has happened with the oil You get the same amount of oil but you need ever more dollars
The rest of us do not want to pay for your counterfait money and pay for your exceesive livestyle
The chinese have shown how they can make the same things as you do for a lot less amounts of dollars
One hour of pay in USA costs the same as 30 hours in China
It is not because one hour in USA is worth more it is just the dollars are overpriced and they are spread all over the world
The rest of the world are sending those dollars home where they belong and you will see its worth decreasing
There is no way they can be talked up in value any longer
A hamburger costing 1 dollar should cost 30 dollars
Prepare for a heavy inflation
A house costing 100.000 dollars should really cost 3.000.000 dollars
The house is not becoming better it is just the dollars going down in value
The Corean war The Vietnam war The Afghan war The Iraq war
and many other stupid actions has called for the printing presses creating dollars and they are coming back now along with the terrorists
Best of luck
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If what you say is true, then shouldn't the money market interest be falling?
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