I drive a 2007 Crown Victoria as a taxicab
in California. Near the instrument cluster
is this switch:
I can't tell what it does. Turning it on or
off doesn't doesn't do anything that I notice.
I don't see it mentioned in the owner's manual.
Can any of you tell me what the switch does?
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That switch was added by "someone else". I think that you will find that the
connections on the back are quite unlike anything else that would have been
The tone of your post makes me think that you drive this cab for someone
else? Perhaps asking him might help....
well if "someone else" added that switch, they had more balls (and
skill) than me to cut into that plastic without wrecking it.
gotta be something unique to a cab to go to that trouble.......or maybe
the Cloaking Device.........Quiller Drive?
We are regularly called upon to add "toys" to new vehicles.... Nothing
ballsy.... use the appropriate tools.... measure and work carefully.
FWIW, many currently available rocker switches require that we only drill a
This doesn't appear to be a quality job. The dash isn't flat any more.
It looks a lot like an add-on that does something that wouldn't be obvious,
hence the pilot light.
Killing the brake lights would be an interesting guess, with the pilot only
illuminating when the brake is depressed. Add on fog lights? Some special
Next clue would be the size of the wires attached to the switch, and where
they go, in the immediate vicinity. I presume if you could trace them you
would have. The mechanics could, but don't care. A brake light cut-out
should be easy to follow 12" to the brake light switch.
Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5
after thinking about this for a while today, i came up with an interesting
is it possible that it is hooked up to a hijack light??
i remember reading about taxi companies adding a little light on the back of
the cars to let cops know if they are getting robbed or carjacked
Thanks for your replies so far.
The defogger switch is on the center
console, so that's not it. It's not
for the light atop the cab.
The mechanics at the cab company don't
know what the switch does.
I doubt very much that the cab company
installed the switches because
(a) it's unlikely that the installation
would be so neat, and
(b) they probably wouldn't buy switches
with a built-in LED such as these have.
My best guess is that it's a switch
peculiar to Ford's Crown Vic taxi and
I'll look at the dash of some other
cab companies' Crown Vics and at some
Crown Vic police cars, and maybe I'll
take the photo to a Ford dealer and
On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 15:18:03 -0800 (PST), email@example.com wrote:
Sure! Check how fast the taxi meter ticks up per mile and per
minute of wait time as you drive with the switch in both positions -
it's a very common practice to illegally rig the taxi meter so it runs
faster and charges more. It's probably a felony considering the
overcharges you could rack up...
Except if you suspect that the passenger you just picked up is an
inspector from the local Taxi and Limo Commission and they'll
immediately know they've been overcharged. Then you flip the switch
back to the "Legal Fares" setting.
But I doubt that's what you have, since the switch is usually hidden
a lot better than that - the inspector would see you flip it. Much
better to put it somewhere under the lip of the dashboard, or above
the pedal cluster where you can tap it with a toe... Or better, they
mickey with the computer program ROM for the meter itself, and it
toggles in or out of the running fast mode if you push a certain
control button combination...
And if they DO have a switch like that rigged in the cab you
regularly drive, consult a lawyer - I'm betting even if you don't own
the car, if a T&LC Inspector finds the switch /you/ are the one that
gets busted, not the car (or medallion) owner. They can easily deny
everything and say you had it installed to cheat them too.
--<< Bruce >>--
PS: And for all you nay-sayers, it happens regularly. Los Angeles
has been known to go through and bust cabbies with City Taxi Seals for
doing it, as have other local cities with their own taxi licensing
systems. There are garages that specialize in this, and they can have
your meter rigged and the car back on the road in 10 minutes - if you
have the cash to pay for the work.
And for small towns with no regulation systems in place, it's all
Caveat Emptor. If you know the trip is normally $10 and suddenly it's
running you $20 but the Official Rates never went up, that's why.
So do I - actually, my first choice is to rent or borrow a car.
Second choice would be an airport shuttle van service with
And if I ever get into a situation where I have no other choice but
hail a cab, I'm going to have a copy of the local taxi rates and fees,
and know what the trip should run ahead of time.
Bring my handheld GPS. And the GPS track log is evidence.
Oh, and if I get "a very bad feeling" about the fare, smile for the
camera! I'm taking pictures of you, the car, the hack license on the
dash, the license plates and the medallion. Just in case you're using
your cousin's Hack License when he's home asleep, and thinks he has an
--<< Bruce >>--
I'm the original poster. Someone finally figured out that this
...is the "roof-lamp switch and indicator" mentioned in the Crown Vic
taxi package detailed at the bottom of this page:
Taxi Package (Hole in Roof - 973; No Hole in Room - 974)
- Rear door pull handle, door ajar indicator lamp, lateral bow
reinforcement, removable headliner, roof-lamp switch and indicator
and roof-lamp wiring
> GUEST wrote:
> I drive a 2007 Crown Victoria as a taxicab
> in California. Near the instrument cluster
> is this switch:
> I can't tell what it does. Turning it on or
> off doesn't doesn't do anything that I notice.
> I don't see it mentioned in the owner's manual.
> Can any of you tell me what the switch does?
> [The email address that you see for me above
> can't receive messages, so please reply here.]
Ford doesn't usually mount switches in that
particular trim bezel. Without more info, I can't be sure, but if
this car was a factory P72 taxi package, it may be a switch for
factory wiring available as an option on P72s to operate the roof
light. You might check on Ford's website to see if the switch
corresponds with any photos. If your car is leased from a company, it
may also be a switch that your taxi company installed for this
purpose. If it is a P72 with a factory switch installed, it is
possible that the roof light (if applicable in your locality) was
powered by a method that bypassed this switch.
To find out if it is a P72, look at the VIN, it will show P71, P72,
P73, or P74 in the VIN
P71 = Police Interceptor Pursuit Package (No Speed Limiter)
P72 = Taxi/Police Package (Has Speed Limiter and factory taxi light
P73 = Base Crown Vic
P74 = LX Package
Hope that helps!
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