Where's the flying Pinto?

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The only thing to save Ford, GM or Daimler-Chrysler will be to build cars the foreigners don't. That's the way to beat this game. As long as these
three losers play catch up, the public will vote Toyota, Nissan and Chery.
Now that Ford has mortgaged their farm for 8 billion dollars, that's just enough to bring out one last new product the foreigners don't sell: the flying automobile. The last flying Pinto was actually developed to a flying demostration for a couple of hundred thousand dollars. It was a grandiose, underfunded project run by two private individuals, yet succeeded in proving the reality of a concept, the dream of a practical ground car capable of practical aerial travel as well. Mass produced, such a vehicle could be sold for the price of fully loaded SUV and get you to where you want to go three times as fast without traffic tickets. The original flying Pinto crashed but that was because it wasn't a factory project. A factory flying Pinto would be crash-proof to the same extent as your family sedan, otherwise Ford wouldn't market it. GM has its Corvette and D-C has its Viper, but those are mere ground cars. Ford has in its very grasp the Flying Pinto ripe for the taking if its new transplanted Boeing CEO will act with conviction. Flying Pinto, the top of the line corporate showpiece of all time.
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Please take your anti-ford and anti-American rhetoric elsewhere. This is a group for Ford enthusiasts.

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When you say catch up, are your refer to GM and Ford, both of whom outsell Toyota, Honda, Nissan etal? ;)
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you forgot to say in my opinion. GM and Ford sell far more vehicles in the US than any import brand. Toyota has so many left over 2006s they are offering big rebates and zero interest, for up to sixty month to get rid of them. GM and Ford on the other hand have relatively few.
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If you know what the future will bring you should be buying lottery tickets. LOL
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The fact is that Toyota is growing. Ford has cut production. And

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Spin it anyway you wish the fact remains GM and Ford sell more vehicles in the US than any import. You ignorance on a subject does not make something incorrect. > This is called a 'trend.'
The VIN number does indeed indicate the US total content of a vehicles assembled in the US. That is the reason the FTC requires three digits to designate those assembled in the US.. GM, Ford Chrysler and Hondas assembled in the US, of the correct amount of US content exhibit a 1 Those with lesser US content like some Fords trucks sold as L/M and all Camry exhibit a 4. Those with the least US content like the Tundra exhibit a 5 ;)
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Your failure to understand does not change anything. You are free to believe whatever you chose but that too changes nothing. Although the Ford vehicles you mentioned are made on the same assembly line, they do not have the same US content among them and thus exhibit 4 or 5 as the first number of the VIN rather than a '1' as do the corresponding Fords that do have sufficient US content to exhibit a '1.' Higher line models for instance have interiors etc. made in Canada for one. That effects the NA content label but lowers the actual US content, that includes more than the sum of the parts.
Automobile VINs have no relationship to other types of vehicles as you seem to believe. VINs are specific to types as well as brand names, as you noted in the various Ford built brands. I E the CVs are 'P' models and the GMs are 'M.' The last six digits are vehicle specific Not even the best selling vehicle in the world the 'F Series' has sold over 950,000 in one model year it never got over 1,000,000. If it did a change in the check digit would allow for another 999,999. In other words to Ford F150s built in the a particular plant, with the same body style, SRS, engine, etc exhibited in the VIN, could have the exact same VIN # with the exception for the tenth digit. ;)
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A lot, apparently. You were obviously not a math major. If you were, you would know six digits can never total one million for one. No manufacture has ever sold a million of one model, in one year, for another. If you actually knew anything about VINs you would know, that by their very nature, that they change by model and they change annually for the same model. You are entitled to your own opinion, no matter how convoluted your logic may be. You are a waist of time, trying to enlighten, bye bye LOL
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Like I said if you actually knew what you were talking about you would knew no individual VIN number would begin below the number one. The fact remains, no matter what you choose to believe, no manufacturer has ever sold 1,000,000 of an individual model in any one year, period. Back when Chevy was the number one selling brand only around 6,000,000 total vehicles were sold in the US. Today the total is around 16,000,000. The best selling individual model is, and has been for nearly 30 years, the Ford F150. ;)
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I have no problem with being corrected. You are indeed correct for a change about the 58 Impala, but the 58 was actually two different models, built on two different GM chassis, as were the Olds 88 and 98, but Chevy used a common model name. As to the Corollas sold around the word, there are several vehicles sold in several markets that carry the Corolla name plate. They have the same name but they are not the same vehicle. The F150 is still king, if one adds the various F Series the numbers are even higher. The Tundra pales in comparison even to the F250

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In only one country and is not what is needed for general family use.
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I guess we can assume you do not live in Texas, fight? LOL
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GM will even sell you an import from Korea.
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