For use in the french Alps (deep snow possible), i am looking for snow
chains suitable for my FOCUS 195/60-15 tyres with alloy rims.
None are advised by Ford, in fact it is written not possible to
install in Focus manual.
Solution could be SPIKES SPIDER sport, but not available here in
Any other suggestion ?
I couldn't find any chains to fit these tyres (check out the chain
identifier on http://www.pewag.com ) on my 1.6 UK Zetec focus so I swapped
to 185/65-14 on 14 inch steel rims. Try your local Ford dealer or Norauto,
I agree. I have the same setup in Switzerland. The tires are slightly
undersized, which gives better clearance to avoid ripping up your wheelwells
should a chain come slightly loose. Don't use chains on alloy wheels.
Also, are you looking for chains to make a set of summer tires somewhat
winter capable for rare trips into the Alps, or do you already have winter
tires in the 195/60-15? If you don't have winter tires, you will be buying
false security with chains on summer tires, as all the Dutch and Germans
learn when they come to the Swiss Alps and try the same. You will get
stuck, or you will spin off the road the first time you touch the brakes on
a snowy, downhill corner. If the temperature where you live is on average
less than 7°C in the winter, regardless of whether or not there is snow, do
yourself a favour and get winter tires. It has been proven and demonstrated
very well on various car shows that a winter compound tire, at temperatures
as high as 7°C and on dry pavement, outperforms a summer performance tire in
I agree also. In addition, the winter tires will cost you nothing on the
Mostly they are smaller and therefor cheaper as the summer tires. A
complete set of winter tires on steel wheels is often the same price as
the summer tires alone. And while you drive on the winter tires, there
is no wearing of the summer tires. Therefore the winter tires will cost
you nothing in effect if you hold on to your car for about 4 to 5 years.
And every little accident with some "new designed" edges of your car
will be more expensive also.
You would be amazed at the number of people in Canada who couldn't figure
out this simple economical logic. I was always told I was an idiot to buy
two sets of tires, when one set of "all-season" tires would do the job! I
just smiled as I drove around all the idiots who were stuck in the slushy
Ottawa snow, even with my light, rear-wheel drive cars.
All-season = no-season
Thanks to all for your advices and experience.
Thinking of getting in the Alps by train...
No, more seriously, il think i will get steel wheels and a set of
But the SPIKES SPIDER approach was elegant, although very expensive
(about 300 Euros).
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 16:19:47 +0100, "Stephen F."
And your 300 Euros will get you most of the way to a good set of winter
tires and wheels. I paid 680 CHF for the wheels with Michelin Alpins, and
Switzerland is known for high prices.
To make you feel better, I can't count the number of Mercedes drivers I have
seen over the years going nowhere with their Spikes Spiders... They are
No! This gadget is absolutely useless. Every major automotive testing
group has nothing but bad things to say about the "sock".
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Audi, VW, Renault, BMW and more offers this "gadget" in their shops.
My Ford local dealer has the autosock too (90 eur)
Iīm sure that winter tyres are better for some countries or regions where
the snow remains for three or more months. But for a occasional snow or a
ski travel is a great solution, i think.
And numerous tests have shown that it only offers *some* assistance in
driving away from a standstill. Sort of the same as putting some sand or a
carpet under your tires. It will do nothing for braking, steering, or
traction once you are moving at more than about 5kph. For 90 EUR you can
buy a proper set of chains...
Proper Snow chains that fit all over the wheel inc the side walls
should NEVER be fitted to Alloy wheels because they will damage the
rims etc only fit a type reccommended for Alloys (if they exist) The
other posters suggestion is by far the better idea nad pick up some
steel wheels and fit the chains to them. These acan be found easily
enough and relatively cheap. Most Canadian who I know of fit steel
wheels for the winter as a matter of course but there again they don't
have to go to the Alps to find snow in winter.
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