Re: Focus 6 disc (6000?) player broke

On 24 Jul 2004 11:40:12 -0700, BigChiefBanos wrote:

IMHO the failire of the unit is not to blaim the burnt CDs. Maybe the unit would not read burnt CDs but it should not break because of them. Then again the legal notices might be interprided as the devil reads the bible...
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Starting with at least the 2003 model year, the single-disc MP3 unit has been standard equipment on most US Focus models other than the base configuration.
I've got a US 2003 ZX3 with the 6006 CD changer unit. There is no special mention of audio or entertainment systems in the warranty booklet. The Owner's Guide contains the following:
"CD units are designed to play commercially pressed 12 cm (4.75 in) audio compact discs only. Due to technical incompatibility, certain recordable and re-recordable compact discs may not function correctly when used in Ford CD players. Irregular shaped CDs, CDs with a scratch protection film attached, and CDs with homemade paper (adhesive) labels should not be inserted into the CD player. The label may peel and cause the CD to become jammed. It is recommended that homemade CDs be identified with permanent felt tip marker rather than adhesive labels. Ball point pens may damage CDs. Please contact your dealer for further information."
That sentence beginning with "It is recommended" clearly negates any implication that using a "homemade" CD will void the warranty. Unless an adhesive label came off or one of the CDs was physically defective -- cracked, badly warped, etc -- I think Ford is on the hook for repair or replacement. They'd have a hard time claiming "normal wear and tear" for an audio system that's less than three years old.
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On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 22:39:29 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@earthlink.net (Neill Massello) wrote:

Thanks Neil. That appears to be pretty clear to me. If you are going to use CR's CDRW's don't stick labels on them! it does not say don't use them at all.

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Andy Lee
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Neill Massello wrote:
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CD-R's and more so CD-RW's have a lower reflectivity, so some CD players will not 'see' the cd when inserted, there just isn't enough light that reflects back, try putting an 'RW into an older CD driver (a non multi-read) in your computer it won't see it, and if you have a real old say 1 or 2x CD it may no even se a CD-R, certain types and colors may be seen and others won't.
Irregular shaped CDs, CDs with a scratch

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The same changer unit is also in the Peugeot 206. My fiancee had CDs get stuck in hers. She was not using any burnt CDs (unlike the ones in my Focus). In the Peugeot, the changer is in the boot, facing upwards. In my opinion, asking for even more trouble, from debris falling into it when loading, unloading discs!!
Peugeot, for all of their other faults, simply fixed it, and didn't lecture on usage etc.
JW
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I had mine replaced (discs and pads) by Ford due to another fault at 1/3 cost to me and touch wood the front wheels stay clean way longer than they used to.
Before they would be black inside a few days normal driving, now they stay silver for a couple of weeks.
I can only guess that the pads they've used are a different compound to the ones that were on there before.
Cheers
Alex
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