2013 Chevy Volt receives update after reports of shutdowns

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And when on the gas engine you are driving a dog of a car that noone would put up with if it were a non-electric.
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Youwould have to put on an amazing amount of miles to pay back for the high cost to buy one not to speak of battery replacements.
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??? We are currently an oil _exporter_.
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On 11/6/2012 11:37 PM, Harry K wrote:

That can't be net.
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 09:44:47 -0500, Sancho Panza

Yes it was.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-29/u-s-was-net-oil-product-exporter-in-2011.html
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On 11/7/2012 3:13 PM, Gunner wrote:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-29/u-s-was-net-oil-product-exporter-in-2011.html
Oh, an aberrational one-year spike. Tks.
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Possibly as long as the track was in a straight line and give you 2 miles to get it up to the speed the mini would be at in a 1/4 mile.
Two different experiences, one fun to drive, the other boring to drive but comfortable to cruise in.

So why are you pushign a dog of a hybrid?
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Really? Take a hundred mile trip in a volt or a chev malibu. Which would you choose? Someone up thread posted that as far as the cost to buy goes, people spend that much money buying regular cars - true, the difference being that the regular car it will be a full size loaded with creature comforts while the volt has almost no "goodies" and is about half the size.
Volt is useful for _some_ poeple as an only car and for some people as a 2nd car. It is not even close o being useful for, what was it?, 90% of poeple.
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Volt is useful for _some_ poeple as an only car and for some people as a 2nd car. It is not even close o being useful for, what was it?, 90% of poeple.
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Pulled straight out of the ass of the Bureau of Madeup Statistics.
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Really? So if the only car people could buy was a Volt, tell us how that 90% of the people would somehow not be able to do the same thing in a volt?
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You must be an urban dweller..arent you.?
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Probably lives within bicycle distance of 90% of his trips but doesn't use one.
Odd how people on hobby horses can't see the forest for the trees. He reminds me of the infamous "News" and his amazing air car.
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Wow, the irony.
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Are you implying that the Volt cannot be driven on long trips on the highway?
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Well, it's a fact that it cannot go more than about 50 miles on battery only power. See also the Nissan Leaf, it was having problems going more than 45 miles for a commuter in Arizona.
If you want to use the gas generator engine, that is a different issue. But on battery power alone? I'll say it cannot be driven on long trips on the highway.
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On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 16:40:27 -0800, "Daniel W. Rouse Jr."

Then you are a fool. It obviously can be driven on long trips on the highway. You are letting some sort of political agenda color your thinking on this. Color is probably not a strong enough term, it's more like you have been dipped in a rust coating, wrapped in several layers of high temp insulation, and then put in a wooden box inside a dark room and done this to yourself to pretend the volt is something other then it is.
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For "long trips" <= 50 miles? Anything longer than that, it has to use the gas generator, which means it functions as a gas vehicle.
Let me tell you this: I rode in a Chevy Volt. The drivers of the Volt had driven from their home office to do some work. They had about 9 miles left according to the battery life indicator. In town near the office they were visiting, they were using the electric engine only, and the only noise heard was the tire noise on the road. The A/C also gave satisfactory enough cooling.
Now for the bad news, it would have been over 20 miles for them to drive to the nearest charging station compatible with the Volt, because several nearby charging stations had older charging plugs incompatible with the newer plug used by the Volt. That means after 9 miles, they were on gas generator. If they didn't charge at all, they'd be using gas generator for about a 1.25 hours drive back to their home office. Either way, they had to use the gas generator.
IMHO, they could have saved money by just purchasing a gas only car.
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Of course they can. Exactly as any gasoline powered vehicle can.
Or you can stop every 49 miles, and spend 2-6 hours sitting on your ass at a charging station somewhere, before driving for another hour (49 miles) and spend 2-6 hours..etc etc
Drive 100 miles and it will take you from 4-12 hours of recharge time
Even the traffice jams in LA are faster than that.
Now if we are talking about gasoline powered vehicles..we can buy one of those for less than $12k New..versus $40k for a volt. Thats $28,000 in difference in price. How much fuel can you buy for $28,000?
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And for the 12k get a vehicle that is a lot more fun to drive with more 'goodies'.
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No one ever said it wasn't expensive. Using your logic, no expensive car is suitable for driving PERIOD because there are cheaper cars that could be bought.
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