Calling James Higgins

I don't understand, why would the car be allowed to be sold if it failed the safety tests ?

The real question that should be asked is;

"How does Toyota continue to be considered to be the "king of reliablilty" and how are the auto's they sell continue to to be considered to be "gas misers"????

No one RECALLS more vehicles than Toyota, so that should say something is wrong. Check the news or internet, and you will see that these great and mighty cars have a whole bunch of problems. 'Course, you may have to search deep in the newspapers to find such things, as opposed to American nameplates, which will garner front page headlines for a recall for a faulty interior light dome switch.

And, of course, GM sells a whole lot more 30 plus mpg cars that Toyota, it just is somehow never reported.

We all know Toyota's are incapbable of flipping over, so it must be the drivers fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The real question that should be asked is;

"How does Toyota continue to be considered to be the "king of reliablilty" and how are the auto's they sell continue to to be considered to be "gas misers"????

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One word - Sheepeople.

Like him or not, Higgins posts GM related material, even a lot of negative stuff. Where is the GM content in this article that applies to a GM group? Posting pure Toyota crap here makes you the equivalent of an old lady gossiping over the back fence.

New nym, old address.

Jim posts news articles. I try to avoid pure Toyota crap, but I think there is a valid venue here for comparisons.

Admittedly, I have been burned severely by GM. I have bought my first Toyota vehicles in the last two years.

I am for damned sure no cheerleader for GM, as some here are, but I try to be fair.

Like I already said, give me a break. If either you or Ed wanted "fairness", you would have to post articles of GM doing *good*, which JimmyBoy never does. Yes, GM screws up, but there is also good news articles about GM all the time, but somehow JimmyBoy misses all of those. I post them when I see them, but unlike Jimmy I have a life, and don't dedicate it to posting hate-mail to Usenet.

Gimme a break, Ed. You know as well as I that he will post positive articles about Toyota in this group even if GM is not mentioned a single time. Just his way of saying "Toyota Good-GM Bad.

Does it all the time.

Just, for some unknown reason,he always seems to miss the negative articles relating to Toyota, along with any positive articles relating to GM.

See a connection here?

And on the same thought, for some reason he never posts any negative Toyota-positive GM stuff on the Toyota groups.

Wonder why???????

Not trying to hide anything Jimbo, this is the old coachrose.

Would really like to get rid of the jr92 surname.

Don't know why Google did this: I (knowingly, at least) changed nothing.

And I also see you changed nothing, continuing to bash away at the good ole General.

While I have a lot of issues with them at this point, I would like to ask

"Why do you hate them so much?'

For the record, Jim posts NEGATIVE articles regarding GM, and overlooks anything positive. And will post positive articles regarding non-American nameplates if he feel such articles will cast Detroit in a bad light. Has done this for years.

And BTW, notice he does not deny this!

I wish Jimbo would be, also.

He post new articles, not opinions. You see it as hatred, others see it as facts. Perhaps he does pass on the "good" stuff, but so do you.

Why does he do it? Probably just to piss you off - - - - and it works. As far leaning as you think the GM bashers are, you go the opposite way in defending them. Stand back and look; you can't see it from your seat.

For economy in cost and in mpg I would not doubt Tata Motors is king. Think Nano.

I read very little of it. Some is fact, some is possibly a reporter's opinion, but my point is, it is hard copy from a public source, involving GM, not Toyota news. To chide him for mising a negative Toyoa news pice not posted to a GM group is plain silly.

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I'm not interested enough to look for everything. Unlike you, I'm not obsessed with GM or Higgins. I don't read 80% of the postings to the group, only those of interest particular. You can be a GM cheerleader but you really get upset when anyone says anything at all negative about the company. It is a company in trouble, mostly due to their own doings for some years now. On a personal level, they employ a lot of nice people trying to earn a living like all of us. On a corporate level, they done a lot of stupid things. I'd like to se them survive for the sake of employees, but as a corporate entity, I don't give a crap about them. The

100th anniversary should be a time of celebration, not a time of legal maneuvering to best take a dump.

Don't take every comment about GM as a personal attack on you. As I said, step back and look at the (newsgroup) situation and see how it all looks from an uninterested third party. Your going to put yourself in an early grave worrying about Higgins. Don't let him push your buttons.

I didn't say I want Higgins to start posting negative Toyota news. All I am saying is the guy is a Troll, and that is obvious by the fact that he doesn't bother to post any positive GM news. Like I said before, do you visit newsgroups of TV shows you don't like, and bitch and moan about them? This group used to be a place where people came in, chatted about there cars, and had a really good time. People like Higgins and Canuck have ruined that for many of the older regulars.

I am not obsessed with either. I see Higgins as a Troll, and a personal chew-toy, but as for GM, you'll excuse me if I call bullshit when someone pops in here and claims all GM's suck, because of the Chevy they had back in the 70's.

Same here, I read what is of interest.

Not anything. If you have been watching my posts, you will see that I too will fully admit when GM screws up. My old '01 Montana had to have the gaskets replaced, and my current '01 Bonneville is having the gaskets done as we speak. The 3800 engines will last forever, but unfortunately GM didn't want to repair the faulty parts in it. I also had a 1996 Bonneville with the supercharged 3800 burn to the ground last year (before GM recalled the 3800 supercharged engines). When I called GM to see what they would do about it, they told me the recall only covered the Grand Prix's, and Regals. Did it piss me off? You bet your ass it did, but am I going to spend countless hours, even years complaining about it? Of course not. I don't see the point.

I totally agree that the head's of management at GM need to retire, and they need to do it quick. They have been given a second chance, something that many other companies never get. They need to do right by it, and make GM profitable again.

I will admit that there are days when I do take certain comments personal. When someone was talking about how much there Regal sucked, for example. The reason is (as I have stated many times), I live very near a GM plant, where most of my family is or has worked at one point in time. We (this region of Ontario) take great pride in the vehicles we produce, but we are only the assembly workers. We don't design the parts, and we don't decide how much money is to be spent on a part. That's why I agree the top management needs to go.

Higgins doesn't push my buttons. I've actually had a good time with him since his arrival a year and a half or so ago. It didn't take long for me to realize why he was here (to bash all that is, was, and will be GM), but his hypocritical post's knows no bounds, and neither do his lies. And, at times I like to call bullshit on some of them. He only answers every now and then, but I can assure you that I push his buttons far more then he could ever push mine.

Anyway, it has been nice conversing with you Ed, and I thank you for your advice. You seem like a good, honest, decent person, and I do apologize if it seemed as if I was jumping down your throat.

Well then, tell GM to stop credit carding debt onto the taxpayer for it's screw ups. Makes GM look like a leach, a paracitical slug sucking on peoples behinds. GM has no business using the tax system to subsidize if crappy management and corrupt corporate culture. The fact that GM has shafted millions of people even before it gets to taxes. GM is synonomous with getting screwed.

And I don't know about Jim, but I have been a GM owner 3 times, each worse than the last. I will admit, the first one was good, Cutlas Surpreme 1980 or so.

And this former owner would have never said a word until the greedy GMers started with bailouts at my expense. Yes, people coast to coast now pay to support GM. Which gives us the right to say we are not happy with it.

If you GM slugs can't accept that, too damned bad. You are going to have to live with the fact you are supporting a blood sucking bunch of theives with low moral values.

Not to worry. I don't take it personal at all. The very ideal of newsgroups is to learn and enjoy. Debate can be good.

Neither do I. People post what concerns them. Tax-picking my pocket concerns me so I post accordingly. Last I checked this was alt.autos.gm, not alt.auto.gm.fanboy or alt.auto.gm.worship.

If GM doesn't want some negative kickback from tax-picking peoples pockets, then they shouldn't have taken the peoples money and either fixed their own incompetent issues or gone bankrupt. It is that simple. There is no rational and moral explanation that justifies why non-auto workers in Canada and in the USA, many who make less and have no or weak pensions, should have to sacrifice government services, higher taxes or what amounts to selective corporate welfare-corruption.

The big lesson our governments need to learn is reward the producers, not the losers. Rewarding losers is expensive, you just get more of them. Time to get the GM & the banks off of corporate welfare and corruption.

Very well said.

My 89 Regal, 2.8 litre V6 would reliably get 35 mpg in highway driving. Now, this was measured from actual tank fills versus indicated mileage. That car would be 20 years old this year, and it is very hard to find anything that will get this sort of mileage now, considering size, power, and equipment. Why?

It was not a perfect car. In fact, it had more problems that any other car I have ever owned, but between repairs it was comfortable, economical, and fun to drive.