Now Chrysler wants to deal with Chery.
How ugly, just a few days ago the big 2.5 were sucking up to Bush for
help against the low Japanese Yen.
That was BS, but importing Chinese cars built in a dictatorship killing
political opposition is really ugly. I won't be buying one!
Yeah, it reminds me of the good old days when Iaccoca was running
Chrysler and never missed an opportunity to bash and badmouth the
Japanese ... while at the same time cutting a deal to source Mitsubishi
V-6 engines for minivans and other vehicles as well as VW engines and
transmissions for the Omni/Horizon cars.
Talking out of both sides of the mouth is SOP for automotive executives.
As you know, they imported entire lines of cars -- not just engines. This
was right after the Mideast oil crisis of the 1970's. Chrysler was caught
without small cars. So they imported many different Mitsubishi models and
slapped the Dodge/Plymouth badges on them.
Colts/Champs/Sapporos/Challengers/D50 trucks/Plymouth Arrow cars and
trucks, Dodge Raider, Conquest, etc.. But however, Chrsyler eventually
R&D'd and tooled up and started making their own smaller cars -- Omni,
Horizon, Reliant/Aires K cars, Lancer, Dakota trucks, minivans, etc.. They
only used that VW engine in the Omni a year or so, I think. Then they put
in their own 2.2 4 banger starting in 1980. The 2.2 was a durable little
performer -- very long lasting, good gas mileage and power. Designed by
the same engineer who designed the slant 6. But like most cheaper cars,
most cars with the 2.2 were abused and not maintained. Thus many
prematurely blew up. If properly taken care of, they last forever.
To get of on a tangent. I know people that seek re-possessed cars because
they are a bargain. If the owner could not make the payments, you can be
pretty sure they did not get oil changes when needed too.
Indeed you are correct. All those poor captive imports which eventually
became orphans. We also had the special treat of Opel by Isuzu sold by
The base design for the Omni was European. It was in many ways one of
the first world cars, built in slight variations in multiple markets.
The base US 1.7 l engine was the VW unit through 1983. The 2.2 was
originally an option and eventually became standard. Lots of
interesting history on the Omni/Horizon here:
3 years, '78 to '80. Also the VW stick shift transmission.
I had it in the Horizon in '81.
Unfortunately Chrysler put in their own first 4 speed stick shift. It
was a disaster, but I stuck with it and after many patch up jobs they
replaced it totally in '84. Fine then, but what a horror story,
including few mechanics who could even understand stick shift language.
Great engine. It had to be, it powered the K car which saved Chrysler.
Why is it OK for consumer to buy cars built in foreign county, or vehicles
like the Camry and Tundra that are only assembled in the US of mostly
imported parts, but NOT OK for domestic manufactures to take advantage of
the same low cost parts and labor costs? The only reason Americans are
loosing their jobs to foreign manufactures is the fact they buy those
products. If American did not buy imports there would not be a market in
the US for those products. ;)
No the question is why is America not allowed to dump cars into Japan the
way Japan dumps them in the US? Japan wont allow it and the US Gov obviously
does not question the Japanese tactics, which makes it a double standard.
Dumping is defined as selling a product below it's actual cost. Since
Toyota and Honda are making record profits it is hard to see how they
Chevrolet has made at least one attempt at selling cars into Japan in
recent years. Are you surprised that few people there wanted a Cavalier
instead of a Corolla or Civic?
Nope wrong again Mike, many "imports" are assembled here of mostly local
The "imports" are not cheaper than the Big 2.5 cars, but more desirable.
How ridiculous it is that many "imports" have significant local content,
whereas the Big 2.5 sell vehicles that are totally imported.
Take those Korean cars GM sells and now they want to import from China.
The worst enemy of the local car workers is the local car company miss
You're like a worn out record Mike, repeating the same half truths over
Not because Ioccoca wanted to...he did it to survive. Wants he got on his
feet he dumped them for chrysler engines. And the 2.2 chrysler was a great
little engine. I ran mine up to 182k miles before rebuilding it. And this
was 1980 technology.
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