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n5hsr wrote:

Mostly, they've been right about this. The company across the parking lot from where I work does clinical trials of herbs and drugs, and their trials for herbs are a lot more lax than those for legitimate drugs, except when the makers of the latter want a new marketing angle.

What's cinnaomon?
OTOH cinnamon hasn't been shown to work very well for type II diabetes, if at all.
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What you will have under Hilarycare is an 5c asperin that cost $4, as it does now under Medicare LOL
Mike

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"n5hsr"...

Yet men gladly pay $10 a pill for Viagra :-)
The substitute for quinine is usually Neurontin or Lyrica these days. Sometimes the antidepressant Cymbalta is used as well.
Quinine, unfortunately, becomes tolerant to the patient, then stops working. It also can have a few side effects (like anything).
I don't know much about dialysis-related meds, but it seems weird to use a muscle relaxant in someone with kidney failure.
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In the dialysis centers I've been in they try to get you to use Robaxin, whatever the heck that is. Doesn't work at all on me, I actually cramp harder.
Let's see.
I've had cramps Hot flashes, they shaved my legs If I have to start wearing a bra because my chest starts jiggling, I'm going to know they want to get me ready for a sex change instead of a kidney transplant.
Charles of Schaumburg.
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"n5hsr" ...

I guess the anti-spasmotic property is what they're going for, but there are a lot of those. Robaxin must be particularly easy on the system. That's a really old drug.

DAMMIT Charles!
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We aim to please. Actually, there's no mystery about what happened.
Cramps is a normal occurance with dialysis patients. Dad used to wake up at 3 am screaming in pain
Hot flashes, OTOH is a bit more difficult to explain. I've had them twice. The first time, I'd managed to pass out and they put warm saline in me. The second time was almost 2 years later. One day at work I just got a hot flash. . . .
They shaved my legs for the bypass surgery. And my chest, but I told them it would be faster to pluck the 3 hairs on my chest.
The hormone they use to keep my blood up made Dad's chest tender, they had to give him a mammogram, but they've changed something about it, and so far, no jiggle.
I kid the nurses about it. I keep telling them they're giving away all the secrets of being a lady. . . .
Charles of Schaumburg
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And I forgot, they made me wear support stockings after the heart bypass. I figure the next thing is a garter belt and a bra, in black, of course.
Charles of Schaumburg
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"n5hsr"

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On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 15:01:26 -0400, "Wickeddoll"

............but but you DID look....LOL
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"Scott in Florida" "Wickeddoll" wrote:

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On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 15:47:55 -0400, "Wickeddoll"

Your mind is a terrible thing to use for things like that....
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Quinine is no longer available.
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Yes, I know. Big Pharma has managed to get it taken off the shelf 'cause they couldn't patent it and charge 110 a month for it.
As Big Dan Teague said in O Brother Where Art Thou, "It's all about the money, boys."
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I read there has been some side effect issues. I believe it was the FDA that put the breaks on it. I used it for night leg cramps. I found that a couple of Tylenol work pretty well for me also.
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wrote:

Can't take Tylenol. And it didn't work for my leg cramps anyway. Neither does Robaxin. I get so tired of the US Drug companies. Especially since they started advertising prescription drugs (Thanks, Bill!) The present is starting to look a lot like some of the dystopias I read about in Sci Fi books as a kid. Don't like something? Take a pill.
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Some people ARE overmedicated. On the other hand, there's been some wonderful drugs that have been made available over the past 50 plus years and has extended the lives of many people. Blood pressure medicine is one area that comes to mind.
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I still think we're coming closer to the dystopia where everything you think do and say is in the pill you took today. . . .
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n5hsr wrote:

But, according to the song, that's not supposed to happen until the year 3535. :)
Bill of Farmville
Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x')
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There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.
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We aim to please.
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Hey wait a second, I thought only guys that abused themselves went blind. . . . .
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