GM BANKRUPT and Foldining...Toyota to take over stock!

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Will this be the headline if GM dosnt get its act together fast?

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"SOB" <Willy Edsel Ford Lincoln-Mercury> whined in message

*yawn*
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You are not allowed to say anything bad about GM in this group. The worst sin of all is to compare numbers with Toyota.
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To which number are you referring?
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snipped-for-privacy@mailcity.com wrote:

Ok, I'll bite, just a little though. GM has production capacity for 35% of the US market share. They only have 25% market share (and decreasing). This did not sneak up on them. I was in diapers when they had 35%, but I might not be in diapers again by the time they wind down to 15%.
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GM was at 50% when the total market was about seven million with around 10% being light trucks. Now it is sixteen to seventeen million cars and trucks, with over half being light trucks. Toyota is now at 10% of the US market in comparison, with the majority of its sales in cars.
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wrote:

Production ebbs and flows. If GM builds a decent vehicle they might have a use for the capacity. :-)
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The editors seem to prefer import brands but GMs and Fords newest cars are getting rave reviews by the buff mags lately. They are selling well without rebates and can still be had for thousands less than anything from Japan.
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Some ga wrote:

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Is it April Fool already !?
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On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:20:32 -0500, "Essb" <Billy Lincoln> wrote:

BWAAHHHAA
GM is a "largish firm". GMAC is making money quite nicely. a few good products and they'll be back in the black faster that you can say corporate turnaround.
Look at Ford in the 1990's and Chrysler this past year.
Doesn't take much. if they'd only stick to what they do well. Large, safe, efficient, reliable vehicles with good profit margins. Leave the pop cans to Toyota, Kia and Suzuki.
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Except we may be at the very beginning of a few years worth of 1970's style fuel price increase...which means you *don't* want to be where GM was the last time that happened (sitting there holding the bag full of gas guzzlers that couldn't sell and without any "pop cans" of their own.).
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:45:36 -0500, "James C. Reeves"

I know what you're saying but wrong vision. Think of the New Honda Accord Hybrid. Mid sized 0-60 in 6 seconds, same fuel economy as the Civic. The Japanese got where they are from the glowing ashtray of the 40's by copying the best of America (Demming etc). Now imagine selling Caddy's, Lincoln & 300's in Europe for 80K Euro's by the boatload. High efficiency, safe, powerful (that's what people want & will pay for) . WRT 1970's fuel price increases... Possibly however most of the price isn't production based, it's fear based (terrorists). I believe that once GWB get's the Alaskan nature preserves pumping oil the price will return to the $18.00 range. Production is being ramped up in Alberta & elsewhere, doesn't take long for a glut to hit the market esp with crude @ $57+ a barrel. Probably about 6-9 months from now would be a good time to sell any oil stock.
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GWB isn't interested in prices, only getting access for his Oil Company buddies so they can cash in. Whatever you are smoking or injecting obviously causes a complete loss of reality, {18 dollar a gal oil?}, never again in your lifetime without a collapse of the world economy which is not out of the question down the road.
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Chinese non-performing loans finally causing the economic house of cards to collapse there, US inflation forcing a return to traditional interest rate levels here with the knock on effect in housing and then consumer markets. All the new capacity from Alberta and Iraq coming online then, if there is a roll out of fuel cells for cars. $18 a barrel might be high.
But that's just my perspective,
Adjusted for inflation Prices per barrel were $10.70 in 1975 $35.69 in 1980 $20.50 in 1990 $16.09 in 1995 Pulled from: http://www.georgetown.edu/faculty/oweissi/rdcop.htm
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That should have read 18 dollar a barrel instead of 18 dollars a gallon.
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Well, the Buick Park Avenue (large luxury car) gets 20mpg city, 29mpg highway, and the Kia Rio (a tiny pop can) gets 24mpg city and 31 mpg highway. Not much difference. Fuel injection and computers have largely negated the fuel mileage difference. Unless you're driving many, many miles, a large car doesn't cost too much more to operate.
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"Essb" <Billy Lincoln> wrote in message

Nah, Toyota will not want anything to do with them.
John
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"Essb" <Billy Lincoln> wrote in message

I suspect GM is in for desperate times, currently most of their profits come from trucks and SUVs. Very little profit in cars. With gas prices rising you can expect truck sales and SUV sales to drastically drop, in other words GMs bread and butter profits will plummet. How long can GM or any company sustain with little or no profits?

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Perhaps GM can find a vehicle like Ford has found with it's new Mustang, cheap, profitable & in huge demand.
A couple models like that & GM could be back on top in no time.
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