GM EV1

(Car Lust) - In 1990 GM introduced the Impact (a rather unfortunate name for a car, if you ask me), an all-electric vehicle at the 1990 LA Auto show. Based on a perceived positive viability of the Impact, GM went forward with a limited hand-built run of the Impact, lending 50 of them out to select customers for 1-2 weeks for evaluation. Press and customer reaction seemed favorable, but I suspect that GM already had the electric car pegged as a mass-market dud. Still, they pressed ahead, led in part by California's CARB regulations.

As an aside, this wasn't the first electric car since the early 1900s, even by GM. The Henney Kilowatt was in production for two years, but only 100 were ever produced. Others had a bit more luck; Sebring-Vanguard produced more than 2,000 of its CitiCars. GM itself had tinkered with all- electric versions of its Corvair and Chevette lines in the

1960s and 1970s, respectively.

The end result of the Impact was the 1996 EV1. It was the first model to wear the "GM" brand and was introduced to much fanfare in the mass media. Initially, the EV1 was only made available to lessees in southern California and Arizona, including some high-profile celebrities. Lessees tended to be rather fanatical about their EV1s -- some would say absurdly so -- but they had some good reasons to be enthusiastic...

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Dave U. Random
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GM killing the EV1 was one of their biggest screwups. If GM had followed up on the EV1 they would own the electric vehicle market but they were-GM.

Reply to
Jim Higgins

Do a search and you will discover the federal government REQUIRED GM to destroy every EV1. It was built as a purely experimental vehicle, under an exception to the federal EPA and NHTSA regulations. It could not be sold, only leased for the one year test and then destroyed.

Reply to
Mike Hunter

So? They could have made and sold an almost identical model that wasn't experimental while they were crushing the current ones instead of scrapping the whole program. They could have told the people with the check for the last 78 (iirc) cars that federal regs forbid them from getting the exact car they had back but that they would get alternate vehicles instead for that money.

Reply to
Daniel who wants to know

Not to mention that for the car to sell it would have had to go for about 30k, the car cost 100k to manufacture and another US $3500 for the charging station you needed in order to actually charge the thing.

Great idea, LOUSY execution. AND GM was hoping for a grant to manufacture them under the Clinton administration that never materialized (because the administration simply didn't have the money).

In short.. it was a cost-ineffective rolling ecological disaster (because of the heavy metals in the batteries).

Another GM fail.

Reply to
Ozzy Ozburne

Probably could not pass a crash test, and for such a short life a serious recall list:

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Tata Nano passed the Euro tests and all models, even loaded are under $5000.

Reply to
Canuck57

Or they could have just built a vehicle powered by water and made BILLIONS.

The EV1 was and EXPERIMENTAL VEHICLE, GM was required to crush them. Get over it and move on. Bitching and crying about "what if" is STUPID.

Reply to
Steve W.

Do you have any idea how much time and money it costs a manufacturer just to certify a vehicle to meet all of the NHTSA and EPA regulations? The crash testing alone take several years and every variations must meet CAFE standards

Reply to
Mike Hunter

The intent was to evaluate the concept, not bring it to market.

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Mike Hunter

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Mike Hunter

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good point; don't forget to add to that the redesign/remaching time needed for any parts deemed to fail in crash tests to bring them up to standard; it might be as simple as doubling the thickness of the sheet being stamped; that dieset has to be adjusted accordingly, and the machine time has to be found between other scheduled work; a single part could add months to the delay

Reply to
raamman

They still failed.

Reply to
Jim Higgins

This might be true if you're the Wright Brothers, working out of a bycicle shop.

But, considering the size and resources of GM, it seems like it could be a six month project.

Reply to
Anonymous

Funny how CAFE standards were designed to keep inexpensive imports out and now are a noose around Government Motors heads.

LMAO. They behaved like government before they were government. Right down to all that unaccounted for government moneys.

Reply to
Canuck57

The fact is GM cannot build small cars, and certainly not inexpensive ones. Tehy probably even knew the EV1 didn't stand a chance in hell of passing crash tests. CAFE didn't exist then so I don't think that excuse applied then.

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Reply to
Canuck57

GM Excellence at Failing.

Reply to
Canuck57

Irrelevant. The car cost 3 times to manufacture what it could have realistically sold for.

Look, don't get me wrong.. all of my cars are GM cars (pre Government Motors-era).. but when they make a mistake I'll sure call them on it.

EV1 was a huge blunder on their part.

Reply to
Ozzy Ozburne

Apparently not, the Volt will come to market in the fall. LOL

Reply to
Mike Hunter

You obviously have not concept of what it takes for a manufacturer to meet NHTSA and EPA regulations, it that is what you choose to believe. LOL

Reply to
Mike Hunter

Once again our friend Canuck57 is telling us the sky is falling. LOL

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Mike Hunter

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