And what percent of all GM sales does the Corvette contribute? if Chevy
leans on the Corvette as its crutch of quality, then they better stop
fooling themselves, either spin it off as its own brand like Austin Martin,
The Chrysler - HEMI Ford - MUSTANG GM - BORING analogy
was your not mine. I merely pint out you forgot Corvette. do you
believe Ford and Chrysler should spin off the Mustang and the
Hemi as well. ;)
GM has won some quality awards of late, especially the Buick division.
However, the awards didn't translate to sales. So there is something other
than quality needed it seems.
The first words that pop into my mind with GM are "Glaring Lights In Your
Face" (but I'm sure everyone her already knew that) <grin>
I still say many potential customers out there see GM cars as torture
machines. Shining lights in people's eyes has long been a very effective
form of torture for decades. And GM is top dog at shining lights in
people's eyes all day long and everyone knows it. People don't like
it...I'm telling ya! But don't believe me. Just look up the public
comments on daytime lights at NHTSA. IF GM wants people to notice their
cars...kill the lights so they can actually see the car! Most of the cars
are actually quite nice (I think!)
I'm going to make up some headlight sheilds to block out the headlight &
DRL's for driving through the campgrounds at night..the parking lights
will suffice for that.
05 Park Avenue
91 Bonneville LE, 303,149 miles
You may find some other ideas at some of the astrology observer web sites.
They have the same exact problem with GM vehicles when attending astrology
camps that require participants to enter with lights off (impossible with
most GM vehicles).
There is more than a little irony in your "first word" scenario, as pertains
to "Chrysler -HEMI". If I may quote Automobile Magazine's Technical Editor
Don Sherman (Oct. 2004) :
"The engine Chrysler touts as its "Hemi" definitely does not have
hemispherically shaped combustion chambers. While Chrysler engineers
commenced development with a hemi chamber inspired by the air-cooled Porsche
911 engine built from 1964 through 1997, they saved very little from that
concept. The chamber depth was vastly reduced, and filler lumps were added
between the valves. The only "hemi" feature saved was splayed valves
located in a plane perpendicular to (instead of parallel with) the
So while Hemi may be top-of-mind when we hear the word Chrysler, the reality
is much different. When Chrysler actually had a hemi, the term HEMI had
always referred to its hemispherical combustion chambers. Their 5.7 liter
engine doesn't have hemispherical combustion chambers. Should we consider
that great marketing . . . orrrr deceptive sales tactic? Or just a shameful
sales tactic? Perhaps an out-and-out lie? Keep that in mind when you hear
the word Chrysler. Maybe "BORING" is the lesser of two evils! ;-)
The Hemi of today is a concept that Chrysler has grabed onto.
Better handling RWD vehicles that are capable of applying the
torque from a high powered engine, that still offers decent fuel
economy at 25 MPG. GM is missing the boat in that regard. Both
the Mustang and the 300 are selling much better than expected
because they are offering a large segment of the market the cars
they really want to drive.
When marketing departments get in the mix, facts fly out of the window.
Although one can't argue with sales success I suppose. But the 300 and
Magnum are BUTT UGLY as far as I'm concerned, so I don't get what all the
hoopla is about. Unless it's strictly the raw power of 335HP (with a 400+HP
version coming soon) and the 0-60 times of ~5-seconds in a sedan! Heck, the
GTO would be a better choice, in my opinion, now that it has it's hood
James, we're agreed on this one. The 300 and the Magnum are amongst the
ugliest cars since the Gremlin! Methinks the misnomer "Hemi" may have more
to do with the sales of these 2 products than their design. Sad really.
I'm still amazed that a car as ugly as the 300M can sell so well because
people have been duped into thinking it has a hemi under the hood. It makes
me wonder if the AMC Pacer and Gremlin would be collector cars if "HEMI" had
been written on the fenders. NAW!!!
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