Politics is the reason. Most of us here think we will end up with car
plant#1 expanding instead, once it is retooled for flex manufacturing (both
car plants share the same building and the lines run side-by-side). GM
Canada started backing away from the plant closure within a day of the
announcement. There will be job losses, but not as severe as predicted.
They may even reinstate the 3rd shift that we are losing in 2006. We've
already lost a lot of jobs over the years...through outsourcing and
productivity gains. When I started in Oshawa in '82, GM employed 18 000
people. We are now down to about 10 000, and nobody noticed.
"OnStar" is just another promotional gimmick that you have to pay for.
Like cable TV that was suppose to be inexpensive and commercial free
when it started, it now cost 6 times as much or more and has as many if
not more commercials than regular TV. I expect OnStar to increase in
price as the years pass and you will probably be driving down the road
with it telling you where to shop and eat and sleep as time goes by.
It can be very helpful though, and I was mentioning it to the other guy who
said you could not get navigation systems on US cars under 20k. Sure, OnStar
does not have the little TV, but it still can assist you in finding your
direction. I am in Ontario Canada, and we had a snow storm several days ago,
and I passed someone in a ditch. I stopped and asked if they needed help and
they said that they were fine as they used there Onstar to call for a tow
I could use a replacement for my 4 wheel drive S-10 (S-14) truck that was
made also in 95. The Chevy trucks I saw at the dealer all were bigger,
drank more gas, and didn't seem that much more advanced than my 1995
version. Did you read the Consumer Reports article on the new Honda pickup?
It said it was the best riding truck they ever tested, it road like a
Consumer Reports 2006 Buying Guide: Check rated, Good predicted
"This crew-cab pickup has a supple and steady ride. Its 5-foot long
composite cargo bed features an all-weather, lockable truck. The AWD system
is permanent. Stability control is standard and handling is agile for a
pickup. Jul. 2005"
I have not seen one in person. However my experience with CR is that they
are pretty accurate about cars. If it has a 5-foot long uncovered cargo bed
does that not make it a truck? If it is has a roof over the cargo bed it is
then a SUV or station wagon.
Which GM cars did you look and what made you reject them? I'm curious
because while I was not wholly over-joyed with my last GM car (2000 Yukon XL
that had too many minor problems that cost a bunch to fix) it was a good
truck. A friend has two last generation Impalas and has had great
reliability with them. The new Impalas look to be even better. I think GM is
having a near-death experience (as Nissan had) and that is focusing their
attention on product. The new Caddies are quite good as are some of the
other recent redesigns and the Corvette is superb at its price.
To be fair, Toyota has had big problems with engine oil gelling in their
V6's of late and poor operation of their FWD automatic transmissions.
********That would be a change. Cadillac has been a pot of crap for a
number of years.
Corvette is superb for the price.
Hard to say where the truth lies here. Yes there were problems. Toyota
says that if you
change your oil regularly there is no problem. Also, there may have been
some PCV modifications
to prevent this. I have researched it carefully, and find that there is
some doubt still about
what really happened.
I can say that the Toyota is quiet, smooth, comfortable and economical. It
is much more
roadcomfortable than any GM I have driven lately.
Also drove a Passat. It drove wonderfully, similar to the Toyota.
Havent tried Honda yet. I know they had some tranny problems...Know why??
didnt service them at the proper interval. Son has a couple, one of which
had a tranny failure
at 90,000 miles. The tranny shop told him it had never been serviced...and
since they dont have
filters, you MUST service them on schedule... whether true or not is up to
you to comment.
Facts ARE however that GM has made a ton of crap, and has not bellied up and
made good on
it... the 3.4 engines with gasket and DexCool problems, the 3800 with plenum
problems, and a whole
host of other crappo deals.
GM needs to straighten up or belly up.
I stand corrected. Man, we could use a contract like that in the airline
industry. Hard to believe GM ever signed anything like that. Got to tell
the guys at work about this deal. They probably won't believe it. Thanks.
Good job? Usually not. UAW jobs are often physically taxing (even with
automation) and often boring. On-the-job accidents are frequent. Many
workers must retire early due to physical problems caused by their jobs.
Good benefits? Damn right. Don't blame the union for a contract that GM
agreed to. Even more important, don't forget the many auto workers who were
killed in the '30s while trying to win union representation. The fringe
benefits that workers of all stripes now have available are a direct result
of union workers' sacrifices. Things like pensions, medical coverage and
vacations. Realize too that as union membership has decreased, so have these
benefits. Is there a direct correlation? Maybe - maybe not. Certainly
foreign competition has affected the situation. But WalMart has no foreign
competitors - and their benefits suck. Be sure of this - no executive at GM,
Ford, or Chrysler has had his benefits slashed.
Don't get the wrong idea from my post, Doug. I'm certainly not anti-union
and I don't doubt that assembly line work is likely as dangerous and
detrimental to health as you've related. And I'll add the 40 hr. work week
to your list of things that a lot of stout men in the union movement in the
'30's achieved for all of us. Been a union member since the mid-70's.
Although one that's weak kneed and in bed with management at their beck and
call. Intl. Assoc. of Machinist and Aerospace Workers. (spit)
Boring yes, that's because anyone could do the jobs at much less than the
65/hour that they're getting, not counting overtime. Physically taxing - no
(why would it be boring if physically taxing?). Accidents - mostly faked to
get paid time off. These guys will someday realize that there is no free
lunch. Areas around GM plants nickename them as "Generous Motors" - that is
certainlly true, but will end in a few yeare due to global competition.
"doug" < snipped-for-privacy@SPAMFREEhotmail.com> wrote in message
Don't kid yourself - or try to BS anyone else. Your arrogant attitude
indicates that you have no idea what's involved with the job. And 65 an
It's known as repetition. Look it up in the dictionary, if you know how.
Really? Nothing like severing your finger to get a day off. Or a herniated
disc. Or being electrocuted. Just check with OSHA if you doubt it.
I doubt that you'll find many UAW workers who aren't aware of it. But like I
said - GM accepted the deal. Don't blame the workers. Your typical
anti-union attitude is common among those who are trapped in a lousy job
with crappy non-union pay and benefits, jealous of those are EARNING more
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