The Distribution centers starting pay is 10.75 hr. Wife has been there 5
The stores starting pay depends on the job.
Greeters get 6.50 or so
Cashiers start at 7.75
Deli help starts at 8.50
T&L start at 9.50 > based on experience and title.
Actually, I believe you completely. I'm sure Wal-Mart has great
benefits... but they're great benefits because only 40% of the Wal_mart
workforce actually QUALIFIES to receive benefits, which means they have
a much lower potential cost than your averge company which employs more
full-time workers than part-time.
Can't disagree at all with that one.
Sad thing is, I know people who are ex-union because they choose to
be... They may have just had a rare bad experience, but all the people I
know who are ex-union tell me stories about how their union leaders told
them to work slower and less efficiently so management wouldn't wonder
why EVERYONE wasn't working as hard.
Sad. I hope ALL unions aren't like that.
Yes, you normally do have to go back that far to remember when unions
contributed positively, rather than vampirically sucking on the tit of
capitalism in order to justify their socialist existence.
Regardless, if an employee is valuable to a company, that company will
do whatever it needs to do to keep that employee. Sound familiar? It's
called "merit," something that frightens the entitlement nuts in the
Of course unqualified statements like this are hilarious. But even if
it was true, they probably kept their benefits by earning them,
something else the unions have no concept of.
GM has only built the Gas hogs because that was what the public was
asking for, SUV's and pickups. When the price of gas changed instead
of hollering rape by the oil companies, you complain about gas hogs.
Don't complain about a national policy to eliminate these hogs.
You obviously don't follow JD Powers and its quality ratings as GM
ratings have constantly improved while the foreign models are slipping.
The KIA is such a high quality product that in some parts of the
country you have a hard time getting one financed. They do look good
Oh well keep buying overseas products and you will be wondering were
your job went to.
My wife's Honda Accord was built in Marysville Ohio with
major engine components supplied by USA based suppliers.
Looks to me like Honda is NOT "outsourcing" it's parts to suppliers
and sweatshops in Mexico and China, which both GM and Chrysler
have been doing for several years now.
" DETROIT - General Motors will undergo a wide-ranging restructuring
I always ask myself why they did not make some of these restructuring
moves years ago. They didn't have the market share then to support the
fixed costs. I worked for Rick in the 70's. He's a great talker and
self promoter, but he bares the blame for much of the current mess not
Despite all the blaming of the unions (some of which may be true), consider
German manufacturers have to work with some of the most organized union
structures in the
world. Workers get 5-6 weeks vacation, good pay, benefits, etc. They are
arguably better treated
than the GM union workers.
Mercedes, BMW, Audi, and Volkswagen managed to keep a high level of
profitability for years under such conditions. Certainly, the cars are not
cheap, but have
been perceived to be high end, quality, products.
Mercedes lost sight of that a while back during the Chrysler takeover, and
now realizes and accepts that they have to put back into the pot what they
have taken out.
You can compete by being cheap, and you can compete by providing quality and
in a product. God knows what you might be able to do if you could bridge
the gap between
the two strategies.
For the system to work in America, people have to have jobs, and have to
spend and dispose.
Otherwise the entire economy is dead. Who will buy the Chinese phones, and
if the buying middleclass disappears? It is a necessary evil.
There is NO John Galt.
Years ago VW combined the 2 (quality & low price) with their VW Beetle. As
I recall, it was the world's largest seller for a number of years.
Actually, IMO it was more of a perceived quality due to German engineering
versus actual quality.
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When Ford acquired Jag, I recall a Ford VP, maybe it was Red Poling
said (I will paraphrase):
Short term, the only way to get Jag profitable would be to give the
cars away and charge for the warranty repairs. Since this is not a
realizable option, we must get the warranty costs down quickly with a
dose of quality.
And to further paraphrase, I recall Lee Iacocca saying in one of his
If you think American cars are unreliable, go try something from
Yes the VW engine in our first two Horizons weren't so good,Chrysler
stood behind the valve seal problems.
The Chrysler 2.2 & 2.5 L 4s we had later were very good.
However the Chrysler 4 spd manual transmission that they brought out
with their 4 cyl were a horror story. Their lack of maintenance people
who understood a 4 spd transmission added to my problems. I found I
couldn't even discuss my problems with the maintenance supervisors, they
Fortunately they stood behind it and after many fixes by the one
mechanic they had who understood the transmission, they completely
replaced the transmission innards two years later. If I wasn't very
patient I'd have traded it right away for a "foreign" car.
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