Looking for a mid-size domestic car recommendation

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Hi, I am looking to buy a new mid-size domestic car (Ford/GM/Chrysler). Any recommendations. I have an old Dynasty and really like it. Am looking for something about the same size.

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You can knock Chrysler off your list...Daimler owns them now (German), so it is no longer considered "domestic" by most. That should narrow it down a bit. If you're into gadgets and gimmicky features (that are overly complicated)...look at the GM offerings. If you prefer basic/simple, look at Ford. Since you're driving an old Dynasty, you're probably used to simple. The problem with Ford is that you're probably looking at the Taurus/Sable, based on your description...not sure I'd buy one of those. GM has better offerings in the mid-size car lines (in my opinion)...but a word of warning...you will need to spend a few days reading the manual to understand how to program everything...they have LOTS of "automatic" features that you will need to _thoroughly_ understand.
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If you are looking for domestic, don't forget Honda, Toyota, Mercedes and other people who make cars in the US.
The car companies are not really US companies any more; they are world companies.
After all, Ford has plants in Germany, England, owns Vovlo, Jaguar and other companies; GM has plants in Germany, England and other countries; it owns Saab and other companies.
Jeff
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Actually you are right Jeff, we live in a world economy now. The saying of buy made is USA is getting to be less and less heard. I personally think a world economy is healthy and will eventually help to keep the US from supporting other countries.
Just think some day we'll be saying "Buy Made On Earth". Oh well back to the Star Trek movie marathon....
Brian
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My late father-in-law vowed he would never buy a foreign car, but when we took over his '81 Dodge Mirada we found that it had been made in Canada -- as was our '02 300M.
MB
On 08/15/04 08:07 pm Jeff put fingers to keyboard and launched the following message into cyberspace:

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My 1968 Pontiac GTO was made (assembled) in Canada. That's right a good old American muscle car made in Canada. But hey that's OK. Everyone has to work and eat.
Brian

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wrote:

That is correct. And Canadian plants have consistently produced some of both the best "american" and "japanese" cars in the world.
The Cambridge built Corollas (and Matrix and Solara, among others) and the Alliston built Honda products are every bit as good as anything that comes off the boat. In my experience they (Canadian built "american" cars) are better than the Mexican built vehicles (contourr/mystique, Neon, and Crown Vic among others) and every bit as good as ANYTHING that comes out of Detroit, Kansas City, or wherever.
The "windsor" engine was one of Ford Canada's major contributions to Ford World, and now many of the Mod series engines that find their way into "American built" fords are produced in Windsor, which, although SOUTH of Detroit, across the Detroit river, is in, you guessed it - CANADA.

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Actually, the US gov't considers cars made in Canada and Mexico as domestic.
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On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 20:56:01 -0400, Minnie Bannister

What !? Canada isn't part of the US????
Damn !
So that explains our crippling taxes and pathethic government.
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And I though that there was a country which was Southern Ontario + USA, and then there was Canada...
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On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 13:38:51 +0100, "Dori A Schmetterling"

Ahh... that's where you are wrong.
See on a day like today when the Provice of Ontario gave Ford $100 Million tied to the Federal $100 Million bribe to keep Ford production going here in Ontario, we're part of Canada.
However "Tomorrow" when Ontario signs a deal with Michigan, Ohio & New York to further mesh the power grids it will be Southern Ontario - USA (foot note, "Ontario" is short for "The Greater Toronto Area")

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Full_Name wrote:

Hmmm. I'm pretty sure Windsor is part of southern Ontario, and it has just as big a stake as Toronto does, proportional to its size.
Are you a disaffected Canadian? No wonder you're confused with socialist ideas.
--Geoff

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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 15:36:34 -0400, Geoff

Windsor? Oh right... The Michigan Casino location... See I was looking at it on a tax dispersal basis. Seeing as most government offices, Major Hospitals & quite a number of Auto plants absorb money within a 30 minute drive of the GTA that the GTA was where the sucking sound originated.
Infact unless I'm mistaken Bill Ford (Grandson of Henry Ford) came to the Oakville plant to get his $100 million corporate welfare cheque the other day. Not a Windsor Plant, not a St. Thomas plant. Sad I know, but.... Reality.
Don't worry about my dis-affection with any nation state. My disaffection would be more trans-global & structural in nature.
As for confusion with socialist ideas....If only. The past is the past, socialism, capitalism and communism are dying or dead around the world. Look to the future young man, don't fasten your ambitions to a sinking ship.
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Communism never truly existed, Socialism is still some of the most successful nations (i.e. Sweeden), and capitalism won't leave as long as there are the super-rich. Just out of curiousity, what is the future?
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On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 11:39:24 -0400, "Sijuki"

Wow I'm surprised that this thread is still going. As to "what is the future? That's a hard one to answer as is often said "the future has yet to be written" any pandemic or planetary environmental change can shift people's views pretty quickly. Though the concensus seems to be (if things continue on the present path) a slow withering of the nation state and the rise of the city state.
But opinions of the future, as with A**holes are, one per person on the planet.
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However, the cars made by GM and Ford for the US market are all built in North America, except for the Aveo, that's built in Korea. I think the OP and person replying were implying US-market Chevy, Buick, Caddy, Chrysler, Ford, Lincoln, Mercury. Honda and Toyota are still foreign companies, despite the US-market vehicles being built in the US. The comment about Chrysler is a good point, it's now owned by a German company, so it COULD be considered a German car company. Heck, the Crossfire is a C320 I believe...

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Well, actually based on SLK 320 (previous version), to be slightly picky.
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Only way to really know if it is truly German is to try and sell one.
If it maintains more than 50% of it's purchase price in the first year you're probably not driving your fathers Chrysler. :-)
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On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 19:35:25 -0400, "James C. Reeves"

Daimler Chrysler products are still considered DOMESTIC, whether built in the USA, Mexico, or Canada. The ownership, whether German or not, is shared worldwide by the stockholders of the company - and there are more american stockholders than German, I'd venture to bet.

Better yet, just find another good low mileage later model Dynasty or New Yorker (up to 1992) and keep on trucking!!!!
I just bought a Mercury Mystique to replace my 88 New Yorker. So far I like it. It is smaller than the Dynasty/New Yorker, but has a better body than the Cirrus/Breeze.(virtually all I looked at had perforated hood leading edges at 6 years of age. Some even sooner)
A mid-size GM with a 3.8 (previous to the Gen II) is also worth looking for, but I've found the bodies do not stand up well in our salt/ice conditions. Rockers and door bottoms disintegrate. My 95 Trans Sport does not have that issue (the"corvette station wagon" or "plastic vantastic" has about 320,000KM on it and looks like new)

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snipped-for-privacy@snyder.on.ca wrote:

Thats why they are German owned now. After the merger the high up major stock holders in America sold all their stock and retired. The majority of stock is now owned by high up executives in Germany so that is why they are no longer considered an American company.

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