Correct...on average....about 40% less then CP (customer
Some warranty work is great, other operations are terrible.
A couple of quick examples: Replacing pistons on Malibu
engines pays 13.7 hrs, can easily be done in 7 hrs. Case
half leaks on the Cadillac Northstar engines pay (older
style) 11.7 hrs, and you have to kick ass to get it done
in 8-9 hrs. Most techs cannot do a case half repair in
under 15 hrs so most aren't interested in doing that
repair. And this is exactly what happens, known "bad"
work will simply "not be noticed", while known "gravy"
operations will be brought to the attention of the
customer. Sometimes it's GM that brings the hammer
down and directs us "not" to "notice" certain things.
Some stuff is weird, I just did two rear park brake
cables on a Cadillac a few days ago. Left cable pays
.4, right cable pays .4, replace both cables is .4.........
that really makes a lot of sense.
Brake work actually pays better under warranty times,
but that is simply because the industry has artificially
lowered labor times on brake work to the paying
customer. If you went by book times for brake work,
you would be far out of the ball park in labor costs
that no one would get brakes done at the dealer. As it
is now, there is very little, if any, profit made on a
routine brake job. For the tech it's profitable, but not
as much for the dealership.
Even if that were true, what does that have to do with a
dealership not wanting to do warranty work, that is free
to the vehicle owner and paid by the manufacture? Do do
think they would rather not do the warranty work and get
Philip Schemed wrote:
Let me state an example. Suppose the labor rate is $100 per hour for customer
work, and it is $70 per hour for GM warranty work. However, the shop has to pay
the technicians and mechanics the same $25 per hour, and they have only a given
number of qualified staff.
Chances are the shop will take all of the customer work that they can get, and
then they will take only as much of the warranty work as they have excess labor
available for. If they start taking unlimited warranty work, then their staff
might not be able to effectively finish all of the customer work. So, it is a
priority system with top priority given to the highest paying work.
If they had unlimited staff, then they would do all of the work of both kinds.
But then they would have much more labor overhead and probably waste and
I agree, the mechanism does not read airpressure but rather as explained
very well below. It is important to note that if all tires are low in
pressure then this mechanism will not detect low pressure. It works on
relative information on all 4 tires. Also if tire replacement was done on a
single tire than the the reading would be incorrect. The onboard computer
interface allows for the user to set this function to bias for changes im
the information sensing. You need to setup proper tire pressure then reset
this feature in the computer, then the seetings are bias for all 4 tires.
I have this in my 2001 Aurora.
Read Bob's post for how your vehicle works. On some
other GM vehicles, there are actually sensors that are
built into the valve stems (very special valve stems) and
they are also small transmitters that will send a signal
to the vehicles computer if a tire is low. Whenever you
rotate tires on this type of system, you must relearn each
tire to it's new location. Special tool for it, and wouldn't
you know, it doesn't come with the owners manual.
The "special" kent moore tool lasted in our tool room for about 1 day..some
lube kid must of thought is was there to magnetize his pocket screwdriver or
something...so when we had to do one I got called to the front of the class
to figure out how to do it.... ripped one off a speaker.. worked great...
Sounds a lot like all sorts of "special" tools that manage
to walk off, or get destroyed in our tool room. I was looking
for a special seal driver the other day, found it in a corner by
sheer luck, went to use it and discovered that some silly ass
had used it incorrectly and mangled the end that fit over
the nose of the crankshaft. I fixed it and then promptly
put in a "special" place....ie: where I can find it and use
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