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wrote:> >Being intoxicated is a large factor, but speed is frequently a


Interstate highways are designed for higher speed travel and raising the speed limit 5 mph may not be that significant compared to other factors such as weather.
That same study says: "For example, as shown in Table 2, for rural-county-road accidents involving a car or light truck with a heavy truck, a 1% increase in the speed limits results in a 2.77% increase in the probability of fatality and a 2.35% increase in the probability of injury. For rural-state-route accidents involving a car or light truck with another car or light truck, a 1% increase in the speed limit results in a 11.9% increase in the probability of fatality and a 1.32% increase in the probability of injury. The accident-injury severity findings on non-interstate highways suggest that extreme caution needs to be exercised when raising the speed limits on these roads."
-- Ron ==================== I think lack of training is a huge factor in those stats. I'd like to see simulators used for driving tests, instead of what we have in my city: Tests administered on nice, quiet streets with 35 mph speed limits, in broad daylight. I have yet to hear about any fatal accidents involving parallel parking.
The simulators should put people in deadly situations, like heavy rain & fog at night, 18 wheelers all around to kick up more mist and wreck visibility. Traffic moving too fast, but dangerous to slow down. For extra distraction & terror, throw in some strange, sudden mechanical noises from the "car", and so much humidity that the defroster has trouble keeping the windows clear. Add an idiot with their brights on, hanging in that perfect spot on the left where their lights are constantly in the side view mirror. Find a way to measure stress level. Maybe heartbeat, or something similar to a polygraph. Add in distractions on both sides to test peripheral vision, which is an issue for some older drivers. Maybe throw in some kids' voices in the back seat, complaining about one thing or another as kids do when they're bored on long trips.
Fail the test and you can't take it again for five years. That'll solve a lot of problems.
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

That's why power remote mirrors kick ass. When someone does that to me I adjust my mirror as far out as I can, hopefully it shines back in the douche's face and blinds him.
What's worse are older Ford trucks, their headlights have so much stray upward light even on low beam that one of them behind you feels like you're being followed by someone with brights on...
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Actually, speed in and of itself is meaningless. It's speed differential that's the issue.
Speeding doesn't kill, otherwise everyone on planet earth would be dead.
Besides the speed differential between yourself and the road and other immobile objects, the REAL issue is speed differential among cars on the road. If everyone is going at about the same speed, no big deal. But when someone comes blasting through traffice 30mph faster than everyone else, HE'S the problem.
Likewise, when grandma is going 40mph when everyone else is going 70mph, SHE'S the problem. She thinks she isn't, because she thinks that "speed kills, therefore the slower I go the better". Uh-uh. Doesn't work that way.
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You're right.. Some places have minimum speed limits, out of necessity.
In Houston, I regularly see people going 85-90 mph on Beltway 8. They need to be stopped, fined, and possibly jailed. The maximum permitted speed is 65.
The freeway system there, in general, has a 50 mph minimum speed.
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HLS wrote:

Why? Are they driving unsafely? I doubt it... maybe a few of them are but most of them are probably just getting on with their day.
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I've noticed that consistantly the people who drive the most above the speed limit also signal the least. That doesn't make me think much of their driving skills.
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Reasoned Insanity wrote:

yeah, and they're also cops, so they don't have to. I'm talking about the people actually at risk of being ticketed.
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On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:21:20 -0500, "Reasoned Insanity"

Maybe that's because there is really no need for them to signal. If someone is going past you and then changing lanes after they are 100 feet a head of you and leaving you in the dust why do you need to see their rear lights flash? It's people who are ahead but slower that need to signal because it is those people who will be interfering with the ones coming from behind.
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Trust me, when they are weaving in between cars with only 20 ft of space there, they need to signal. Either way, it's the law. The law applies even when the roads are empty.
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On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 01:33:24 -0500, "Reasoned Insanity"

If that's what they are doing then signaling is accomplishing nothing and they may as well not bother since it's distracting them from the high speed run.
As to your other assertion, I can tell you that in AZ it is NOT the law that you must signal when the roads are empty. I suspect that's not the law in your state either. The AZ law is very clear, you only need to signal when your movement will affect other traffic. There are many instances where someone's lane change will affect no one and legally they are not required to signal. As with many laws, most people, including the cops, are completely ignorant as to what the law actually say and just parrot whatever nonsense was in the state driving manual. Tell me what state you are in and I'll look it up.
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All I could find for CT is from the driver's manual Signal Lights. Don't switch lanes without first signaling your intention to do so, and make sure you don't cut someone
off when you move over. After you've made the maneuver, turn your signal off.
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Drivers manuals are notorious for miss-stating the law.
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That may be true, but it is still a good habit to signal. If you just do it, it becomes a good habit and there is no thinking to evaluate the traffic and determine if a signal is needed or not. Same with turn signal.
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I dont know whether the law allows you not to signal when there is no traffic or not here in Texas.. I can look it up.
On Beltway 8, there is seldom the case that there is no traffic. If I complain about people not signaling, then obviously there are people who are affected.
We Texans are really bad about turning on our headlights in rain and dusk/dark conditions.
And, again, we are pretty bad about hogging the left lane (which is a passing lane).
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I got used to driving with my headlights on at all times when I first got my ham radio plates. I was living in Arkansas, and not too far from Memphis. I found out that in Tennessee, Amateur Radio operators are considered Emergency Vehicles. (As a matter of fact in 1982, some of the Amateur Radio plates issued had EMERGENCY across the bottom.) And in both Tennessee and Arkansas and in Mississippi, emergency vehicles have to drive with their headlights on at all times. Since I had to drive the entire length of Tennessee at times, and since I was up in Memphis a lot, I just got in the habit of turning my lights on when I started her up. Not going to hurt the battery, and since I'm driving a small, hard to see car anyway, it can't hurt. KE30 Corollas are not exactly the largest car on the road. Though the locals got a laugh, or so they thought, when it snowed, and I was out driving with chains on my tires and all. I used to drive up the 61 past Sugar Ditch to Memphis (i.e. right past Graceland), but I understand that way's not safe anymore now that Sugar Ditch has a casino. (Actually the locals had another name for it, expecially since Jesse Jackson was down there so much.)
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In Arizona you must signal whenever you change lanes..... ( even if the highway is empty )

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Whether or not you consider them unsafe, these speeds are very much in excess of the law. And since this puts them at a 25-30 mph differential over specified traffic speeds, yes, they tend to be dangerous. These people typically weave back and forth across 5-6 lanes of traffic, not signalling, and do create a signicant hazard.
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HLS wrote:

I can't remember the last time I drove on a highway where most traffic wasn't going over the speed limit; driving at the speed limit would put you at a greater speed differential to the main flow than driving 25 over.
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Here's a theory we can discuss to death: Things are not the same everywhere.
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I'm basing my comments on having driven just about all over the east coast.
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