Nissan to Buy GM!!!!??

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Now reintroducing Renault to the US would be a huge mistake as


Renault really does have a shitteaux image here, and they deserved it. They have improved their product quality greatly. Going back 4-5 years, the Renaults I have driven in Europe are quiet, smooth as glass, powerful. But winning a customer base with the Renault logo is going to take a lot of work.
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Trying to sell anything in the USA that is considered French has no chance in hell in this political environment, unless of course the product is Champagne or perfume or you are NYC/San Francisco.
The thing about French cars that I remember well is that no mechanic except one with a deranged mind could understand the engineering.
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You better expect the chinese cars sooner or later. THey are making very fast progress, and doing growing in many class c and b markets. THey just need a few years to infilitrate a class markets. check http://www.chinacarforums.com for pics and info
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snipped-for-privacy@nospam.nix wrote:

There is no reason for the Renault name to be re-introduced into the US market. If they have something really special to sell they can always call it a Nissan.
John
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Renault is not one of the star players in Europe. They do a mediocre job there. That is, in fact, why the guy they sent to save Nissan is now also running Renault.
I see no reason to think that Renault has anything to offer GM...except in terms of an imaginative guy as top manager who is eager to make very large cuts, as he did with Nissan.

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The premise is not correct there is no way Renault and/or Nilsson could buy up GM stock. What was propose, by one of GM major stock holders, was an alliance between the three companies. The purpose is so GM can take advantage of the economies of scale of world wide R&D and use more of the less expensive 'world sourced parts to assemble vehicles in the US,' as does Toyota in the US.
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snipped-for-privacy@gmx.net wrote:

Nissan knows the USA market well, obviously better than GM, so could wake up GM.
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Really? GM outsells Nissan at least twenty-five to one in the US. LOL
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The key point is the direction of sales volume, but you as usual aren't facing current facts. If GM mgnt. think like you Mike, GM is toast.
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Really? Nilsson sales are down in the US ;)
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Since Renault already controls Nissan, don't you thin claiming Nissan is going to buy anything is a little ridiculous? The guy that sold Chrysler down the river, is now trying to do the same thing to GM. He doesn't give a damn about GM or the US, he just needs for something to drive up the GM share price so he can extort a little more money from less powerfule invertors. If he relly cared about GM, he get the bozos running the company fird, and hire someone with a clue.
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Renault owns about a 44% stake in Nissan. Maybe a buck or two shy of 'control'.
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Isn'tthat what a Renault buyout would accomplish? Say what you will about Renault products, at least the ones sold in the US (and I've got a lot to say about them, most of it unprintable) they are doing a hell of a lot better as a business than GM is, and they already saved Nissan...
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What good is that? The point is, producing a product which will not have to be recalled. Losing a day or two use of your car? Thats if GM WANTs to do a recall, unless they are fearful of a massive lawsuit or the government forcing them to do one.
One of the last GM products my family owned was a ( don't laugh ) Citation. Oh brother. When they issued a recall on something or other on that chassis, we drove to the stealership one morning..and saw...literally..a 100 cars around the friggin block..and this wasn't the next day after the recall..this was like a month afterward. Never again...CLICK. </troll>
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That is indeed GM's #1 problem, than hundreds of thousands of customers, if not millions, have self selected themselves into the Never Again Club.
Decades of spotty quality and poor support of customers stuck with problems has left GM in a terrible bind, and those customers will not be quick to forgive or forget.
GM also continues the trend of building a few pretty good vehicles and several pretty bad ones. For example, the GM minivans have had much worse than the competition reliability records for over a decade now and GM has never been willing to spend the money to get the vehicles right. The last "redesign" of that family of vehicles was a pathetic joke which amounted to grotesque nose jobs. Ford has made such a hash of their minivan efforts that it looks like they are about to give up.
Granted minivans aren't the growth market today, but they are still a substantial market. Even Chrysler is only making half-hearted efforts to keep their vans competivie. Toyota, Honda and even Hyundai-Kia are eating up market share in that segment every day.
John
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Perhaps you might drive by ANY domestic dealers used car lot and take note of all the import brands that have been traded for domestic models. GM and Ford outsell ANY import brand by big numbers ;)
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Dud, ALL manufactures have recalls ;)
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And that's a good thing. Years ago, you would have never know of a potential problem and you'd be stuck with it. Never lost more than a couple of hours, never a day or two.
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