Oil in Lower Intake Manifold

Hello,

I've begun working on my upper intake manifold, thinking I have developed some problems with the EGR plenum. Well, after removing it and not seeing the immediate signs of this failure, I believe I have a different problem.

Please see these pics:

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You can barely see, but in the upper left portion of the lower intake manifold, I have enough oil pooled to cover one of the bolts that hold the LIM on.

I will be replacing the UIM and PCV valve, as well as the gasket/seal and properly torquing the bolts.

But where do you think this oil came from? Do I have another leaky gasket? Should I remove and degrease the LIM, or just soak up the oil and clean the gasket/seal part of the LIM?

Thanks for any input!

Tom

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Tommy
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PCV valve?

Reply to
Kevin

Just soak up the oil. What you have is not that abnormal. You probably make a lot of short trips which creates more moisture in the crankcase vent system. This moisture takes some oil mist with it through the PCV system and into the plenum. This is an area the customer isn't supposed to see. You might reduce the oil mist amount by switching to a 10W30-40 instead of a

Reply to
Johnoz19

If that bolt and the one diagonal from it don't have the threads sealed, the manifold vacuum will pull oil up past the bolt/threads and it will pool.

Worked on a 3800 a few years ago that had the lower intake gaskets replaced at a dealership, within a few months, the car ran like crap, in the process of diagnosing it, I removed the oil fill cap while the engine was running, huge suction (that shouldn't be). Pulled the upper intake, the bolt you highlight was just laying there across the low spot in the manifold. None of the lower manifold bolts had any sealer or Loctite on them. (draw your own conclusions)

I'd replace the lower intake gaskets. They fail just the same as all the other GM V engines except that the coolant passages are towards the center of the manifold, not on the ends so there is less chance of seeing traces of coolant leaking thus heading off a much larger repair.

On the upper plenum throttle body picture, see the three oblong holes adjacent to the EGR hole? Probe from the EGR hole towards the outside oblong holes with a pocket screwdriver, you're looking for any signs of the plastic softening or having broken away.

Reply to
aarcuda69062

what kind of engine.

The oil or oily lookig stuff over there migh tpoint to leaky injectors. 4.3 vortec is famour for it.

Reply to
uccoskun

It's a 3.8 L V6, the 3800 series II.

Reply to
Tommy

Like it wasn't obvious from his pictures...

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aarcuda69062

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