Ontario Emission DriveClean Test

I'd like them to NOISE test motorcycles!

Al

That's great for conserving our resources but how clean is the exhaust coming out of that car?

Al

Sure, cars from the 60's and 70's are not usually daily drivers, but I still see tons of mid 80's cars around here. Plus, which pollutes more, a 1980 Chevy, or a 2000 Chevy? Likely the 1980.

No offence, but that is BS to me. If someone with a 1999 Chevy can't tell if the car is polluting, how can someone with a 2005 Chevy? Sometimes the 'Check Engine' light will come on when an emission related component fails, but not always. And car's don't yet have a 'Your Car Is Poluting The Air' light yet.

That still makes no sense. Car's should either have to pass, or not have to pass. It's all a big cash-crab. Hell, in towns 2 hours away from me, there is no e-testing at all. Same province, they just haven't gotten there yet.

It will eventually happen.

"Michael Pardee" wrote in news:SNydnRVBR49aeJTYnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@sedona.net:

The sky over Charleston, SC, here on the trailing edge of the Westerlies, went from its normal whitish grey with purple sunsets to the most beautiful blue I think I've ever seen in my 60 years. It stayed that way until the day AFTER they filled the skys with oil burners, again. I haven't seen it since.

One of the jobs I used to do is run a mobile calibration laboratory for EIL Instruments, a government electronics contractor. We towed a trailer lab from FAA site to site calibrating their test equipment. One Sunday, we ended up stranded at the FAA long range radar facility near Benson, NC, in the Eastern corridor, a radar with a 300 mile range. I sat around on my day off with the duty technicians in the radar room. They have a test station, a full radar operating station you can see all the targets, IFF targets FAA calls "Beacons", for about 300 miles in all directions from the huge multimegawatt S-band radar beast rotating overhead. A computer controls it all and presents the targets and you can put the cursor over one of them and get all kinds of information from the beacon system. The radar counted the targets on this Sunday afternoon in about

1980-81 in central NC. There were over 380 targets painted on that screen, the REAL polluters of the air over North Carolina, a huge cluster of oil burners.

It's not your car......

"ajtessier" wrote in news:qrmOg.142280 $ snipped-for-privacy@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:

Oh, I'm sure if we read the oil company sponsored reports it will completely cover the planet in 3" of frying oil in about 3 weeks, if allowed to continue.....

Does it matter whether I burn 21 gallons of it over 1300 miles in the Benz or the recovery company sells it to the electricity corporations to burn in the power plant?

Pollution - Watching the Space Shuttle launch from Charleston, SC.....

"If your car is a 1987 or earlier model, it leaves the program permanently when it is 20 years old."

"2006 testing year. vehicles required to be tested: 2001 1999 1997 1995 1993 1991 1989 1987 "

Take your car in this year and your done with the cash grab forever....

Snow...

re-read the site... everything 1987 and older is excempt after the

2006 year..

Like I said... 1988 and newer have to go and betested until they reach historic staus.

Snow...

whoops.. yes it needs its final test this year, after which it is excempt..

Antique status.. historic status ... close enough.. the end result is the same and there is a provision under the "highway traffic act" to allow for such a status..

" An exemption will be recommended for vehicles of the 1988 and newer model years from all test requirements when they reach 30 years of age, if they receive designation as historic vehicles under the Highway Traffic Act."

"A historic vehicle is defined in Regulation 628 under the Highway Traffic Act. It is a specially-plated motor vehicle "at least 30 years old" that is "operated on a highway only in parades, for purposes of exhibition, tours or similar functions organized by a properly constituted automobile club, or for purposes of repair, testing or demonstration for sale" and is "substantially unchanged or unmodified from the original manufacturer's product".

Owners of a vehicle at least 30 years old can also apply to the Ministry of Transportation to attach Year of Manufacture plates to the vehicle. The Year of Manufacture plates are Ontario number plates that were issued during the year of manufacture of the motor vehicle. Vehicles with a Year of Manufacture licence plate are not restricted in their operation and have the same privileges as a standard passenger licence plate.

More information on Year of Manufacture Plates can be obtained from the Ministry of Transportation."

Snow...