I think I found a bug^undocumented feature of wildcard utility...
Current-ish model 4-door Impala (2007, I think, though conceivably an
'08) in our motor pool. When you turn the ignition switch off and
close the door, the radio goes off. So far so good.
Then you realize you need to log the mileage. You go back into the
car through the *passenger* side (since it's easier to get at in this
parking space), turn the key to activate the electronic odometer, turn
off the switch, withdraw the key, lock the locks, leave.
Some minutes later you go back to the car and discover that the radio
is still on! Yep, the computer is only smart enough to offer a
radio auto-offer via the dome light switch in the driver's side
door. Go in through the passenger side and you could end up
serenading the spiders under the trunk lid all night, or until the
battery went dead, whichever came first...
This is repeatable. Shifter's in Park, key is off and out, radio's
playing. (Also determined that any transition of the driver's-side
door when the key is out will shut down the radio.)
Not sure whether this is a design oversight or just part of the
groundwork for the upcoming robot insurrection,
GM just doesn't sweat the details. There's lots of niggling little
things to hate about the Impala, not the least of which are the doors
that you can't push fully open from a seated position but love to swing
shut on you while you're halfway out of the car, and the parking brake
that goes out of adjustment between oil changes.
NB: my experiences are with an '05, maybe the reskin changed some of
these issues. But I'm still hoping for a different car next time around
(only 8500 more miles! I can't wait!)
replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.
I don't know about the 2007, but my 2000 Impala will turn off the radio
regardless which door is opened after turning off the ignition. Also, I can
press the odometer/trip button to display mileage with the key off--a trick
a learned from my service rep at the dealership. The '05 is basically the
same car as mine, and I've had no problem whatever with the parking brake
going out of adjustment.
All I can say is my experiences are what they are... having grown up
in PA (and even now my driveway has a steep slope) I set the parking
brake every time I leave the car, and it's been adjusted at least
twice already and it's not working again - feels like there is a
spring or something in the linkage somewhere, doesn't feel directly
connected to the cable. I can push the pedal all the way to the floor
and it doesn't keep the car from rolling back onto the park pawl.
I'll ask the garage to tighten it up whenever I think of it and it'll
work for a while and then within a month it'll stop working again.
Still not as annoying as the driver's door that actively tries to kill
me every time I get out of the car. there's a nice boot print on the
map pocket where I kick it every time I open the door to keep it from
swinging shut on me before I can get out of the car. (learned that
trick right quick after spilling about half a cup of coffee into my
hard hat and all over a roll of drawings.) Problem is that it tends
to shut itself even on level ground, and the first "catch" in the
hinges isn't strong enough to hold the door open, but a normal
person's arms aren't long enough to fully open the door until you are
already out of the seat.
I forgot to mention the keyless entry that requires about 5 button
presses to unlock the door... can't count the number of times I've
nearly peeled off one of my fingernails on those #$%^ door pulls
thinking the door was unlocked when it wasn't... speaking of which,
why did it take GM so long to move away from those horrible flapper
style door handles to a proper loop style like everyone else? (I
believe those are actually required in ECE countries) the old chrome
loop-and-button things were perfectly fine too, why mess with a
perfectly functional design?
What's the deal with providing a rear window defogger but no heated
outside mirrors? It's way easier to scrape ice off the rear window
than it is those little mirrors...
I swear, my 50 year old Studebaker doesn't have nearly as many
ergonomic utter and complete failures as Vlad the Impala and is more
fun to drive to boot. (of course, it would be nice to *have* outside
mirrors, rear window defogger, windhshield washers, air conditioning,
I suspect that more uplevel versions of my car might have some of the
things I'm missing, although I think GM might have shot themselves in
the foot by selling such El Strippo vehicles as fleet vehicles...
people who drive fleet cars do occasionally buy personal use vehicles
as well, you know, and my impression of GM based on this car isn't
particularly good. And, of course, higher trim levels can't fix
fundamental problems like the design of the doors and handles,
although I did see that they provided proper door handles for the '06
I'm just bumming that the supposed Zeta-platform RWD Impala keeps
getting pushed back/maybe cancelled... I can't imagine how that
couldn't be a VAST improvement over the current platform.
There is a time limit on the retained accessory power, no matter whether you
open the driver's door or not. If you would sit there and wait, you will
find that the radio eventually cuts off no matter how tricky you get exiting
the passenger door.
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:26:50 -0800 (PST), Ad absurdum per aspera
Not really a bug, just a function of the retained accessory power
feature. Once you get used to having retained accessory power you
tend to stop, turn off the engine then roll up the windows, turn off
the wipers, close the sunroof (hopefully not all on the same day) or
just wait to hear the last bit of your favorite song. Problem was
that while the driver was doing this stuff the kids opened the doors
cutting off the accessory power so the driver had to put the key back
in again to finish whatever he/she was doing. Now they have changed
it so only the driver door will cut the power.
Retained accessory power has a fixed time limit so even if you walk
away and leave the radio on everything cuts off after a while. I
think it is something like 15 minutes.
I'd be very surprised if the radio would play until the battery was dead.
This is not exactly a new feature (my 2003 S-10 has it!), and in every
manual I've seen, GM says the retained accessory power feature will turn off
in twenty minutes.
It works on my truck...
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