You mean the number one selling SINGLE model CAR. More than half the all
the vehicles sold in the US for the past five years have been light trucks.
GM sells more cars than Toyota but not with the same brand on the hood.
When it comes to the number one single brand name vehicles Ford sells that.
The number one selling vehicle is the Ford F150 and it has been for 28
years. Ford sell the F150 at annual rate nearly twice that of the Camry.
GM sells far more Silverado's than the Camry and Dodge sells more Rams than
the Camry as well .
I have an uncle who's a car nut and an aunt who's an Anglophile. They
each have the same model -- Silver-something. Also a friend of my FIL
told me not to buy one, as if I could afford even the owner's manual.
Toyota is rpetty competitive. And they are moving production into the US.
So I disagree with this.
Even if you were correct, with the contracts GM has with the UAW, it would
cost them a furtune to move production overseas. It costs almost as much to
pay benefits for an unemployed worker compared to having the worker do
Actually, less than 40 years. The Japanese really started to take market
share away in the late seventy's and eighty's.
But that is around 25 or 30 years.
and whatever they could have automated they already did.
Do they even have contracts with UAW?
Right. Back to the square one with the cost of labor.
Did they have to bail out Delphi? Aren't there people who are paid to
plan for contingencies like that and develop disaster recovery plans?
It seems like farming out parts production way back when would've
enabled them to build backup parts suppliers in places where you could
decent quality parts because all your money are not spent on labor
and you therefore are forced to cut corners on R&D and parts.
Do you have evidence or knowledge of this Jeff? Simply because GM spun
Delphi off in no way obligated GM to any sort of bail out of Delphi. What
was it about the pension funds that causes you to say that a lot had to do
You forgot to mention Toyota pays their workers less, offer them fewer and
less desirable health and dental benefits and life insurance. They do not
offer them a defined pension plan, only a 401k for which they must pay into.
All of that to assemble vehicles of mostly imported parts from low wage
countries on vehicles that cost 20% to 30% more to buy, than those of
comparable size and equipment, sold by their competitors vehicles. ;)
In any event, it is more than Toyota gives it workers
Wrong, those Toyotas with a '4' as the first number of the VIN have less
than 70% but more than 40%. Those with a '5' like the Tundra have les than
Since Honda, who actually builds cars like the Accord in the US and has a
'1' as the first number of the VIN, filed a complaint with the FTC about
Toyota claming their cars were made in American when they are only assembled
here. Toyota now says in its ads 'Assembled in the US of world sourced
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