Re: Is this Toyota quality??

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Canuck57 wrote:


I believe that it was its mortgage business that had the biggest problems, not the auto loan business.
Most of GMAC was sold in 2006 to Cerebus Capital Management, the people who bought Chrysler.
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Actually, nobody dumped anybody. GM cancelled Pontiac. The Vibe was a Pontiac. With the end of Pontiac there was no longer a Pontiac Vibe to be built. The car was not sold under any other GM brand.
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That is almost right. It was made by the NUMMI facility, which GM dumped and Toyota decided not to continue. The Vibe was a sister of the Toyota Voltz that was a Japanese failure.
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On 31/01/2010 1:08 PM, hls wrote:

You have to look at it from Toyota's perspective. UAW plant in expensive California.... Just the overhead in dealing with California government greed and complexity would need a small army of accountants, legal, HR and others to keep it going. Why not just close it? Excess capacity and make them elsewhere.
Good cost cutting move. Stupid place to put a auto manufacturing plant in anyway. Probably was subsidized by California government at one time before they went broke.
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Once again our friend Canuck57 is telling us the sky is falling LOL
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The Vibe is basically a glitzed up Toyota Matrix. Now maybe that is a Voltz in Japan, but in any case, it is just a jacked up Corolla wagon.
Ed
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On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:27:59 -0500, clare wrote:

Toyota pulled out of NUMMI after GM suggested something, I can't recall now, but it was something similar to Democrats trying the same thing over and over and expecting a different result, and Toyota said, "ENOUGH!!!"
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It was discussed on the group some time ago. IIRC, GM pulled out related to the cost cutting times around the bankruptcy. The plant had always been a disaster, too expensive. Toyota had no reason to continue to use this plant with Pontiac gone and no Vibe to make. The high cost of California did this one it.
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The sooner socialist politicians realize that crippling taxes cost jobs, the better we'll be for it.
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On 31/01/2010 3:39 PM, Conscience wrote:

Not likely to happen, but I agree with your statement otherwise.
Bernie Madoff, $50 billion into a black hole and goes to jail, Obama drops $2 trillion, of which $100 Billion or so into GMs black hole. Even more for "select" banks because the select rich deal there. Pretty hard to explain to Warren Buffet, Bill Gates and others the FDIC limits.
Ever wonder why one bank gets assistance and another does not? Bet the government would not want people to see the client lists and cash in accounts for a little scruteny.
And Congress is looking at Bernie like a top criminal. While Wagner gets a $20 million pension from Gm-Caryle. Just depends on who you are ripping off.
Go figure. Have to feed the biggest corruption engine in the USA, Washington DC. Times are tough, some will not be paying for the senators and congress people this upcoming election. I wonder who will drop out.
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Once again our friend Canuck57 is telling us the sky is falling LOL
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I wrote here months ago, that compared to Congress and the current WH occupant, Madoff is a rank amateur.
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On 31/01/2010 6:18 PM, Conscience wrote:

You were right.
Americans should see this a selective law enfrorcement and proof positive that the government is not in control by the people, but controls the peoples.
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Once again our friend Canuck57 is telling us the sky is falling LOL
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Mike Hunter wrote:

How do you expect them to do this overnight? Do you think GM, Ford or Fiat could do it faster?

And what order would you put them in?

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Duh, repair the cars currently being driven on the highways by their customers, dummy. LOL

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According to the UK Toyota site all cars registered since January are fit to drive.
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In Canada at least, you a WRONG. Customers cars are first. Those with any sign of stiffness get priority. Then come sold cars on dealers lots, then dealer inventory.
New cars are unlikely to have a problem as it is a "combination of wear and humidity" that is causing the problem. This whole thing is being blown WAY out of proportion.
And the "braking" problem on the Hybrids??? Do you realize FORD has had to reflash the code on some of their hybrids for the same problem?? Switching from regen to friction brakes is NOT seamless, so the "impression" of reduced breaking is there.
Not a safety issue at this point as far as anyone knows - but definitely a "driveability" type problem.
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