Sad day for America

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On 21/03/10 5:19 PM, dr_jeff wrote:


I don't think anyone was dumb enough to believe the Republican schtick about the "death panels," but you never know with all the people watching Faux news.
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On 21/03/2010 8:33 PM, SMS wrote:

CNN Live on the interent is a great feed. Less liberal media types trying to be the news.
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SMS wrote:

Actually, a lot of people were. They believe what they hear and read. Even Mike Hunter fell for it.
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When I had a heart problem 24 years ago I had heart bypass surgery the very next day. When one of my friends had and attack while hunting in Canada he was told he would be placed on a monitor and would be scheduled in five to seven weeks for surgery. He paid to be flown to the US and had bypass surgery the day he arrived. Which care would you prefer?

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Mike Hunter wrote:

Irrelevant. THere is nothing in the bill about single-payer insurance.
BTW, which country has the higher life expectancy? How about lower infant mortality costs? And lower costs per person? Hint, it is the one that doesn't have 50 states.
Jeff

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That's true, but the current law opens the door to single payer, BO has said so many times, because the new law will drive up health cars cost over the years.
Do some research and you will discover that the number of doctors practicing countries with nation heath care, is continuing to decline and in England there is currently a seven to eight weeks wait just to see a Doctor unless your are bleeding, not breathing or have a broken bone, is that what you want in the US? Have you even wonder WHY so many of the Doctors in the US have a foreign accent? Have you ever talked to a Doctor that once served in the Military? If you do asked them if THEY want to ever work again for a government run heath care system.
You obviously attend public schools in a major US city, based on the opinions you express in the NGs

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Mike Hunter wrote:

No, the law won't drive up the cost of health care.

Where do they live longer (life expetency)? England. WHere is there lower infant mortality? England. How about lower costs? England.

Because people want a better life.

Many.
Many like working there. My cousin stayed in for over 20 years practicing in the military.

Please explain how you came to this conclusion, particularly which statements.
Jeff

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1. No, the law won't drive up the cost of health care. 2. Because people want a better life 3. Where do they live longer (life expetency)? England. WHere is there lower infant mortality? England. How about lower costs? England. 4. ETC. ;)

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turn up and wait policy in the mornings and an appointment policy for workers in the afternoons, no-one gets turned away, think yourself unlucky that you've got to pay to see your doctor. So much for the "Great American Dream" where you've got to pay for everything. You even tip in shops and restaurants, you don't here.
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Get real, you pay dearly in taxes and fees for you so called "Free" healthcare, dummy. Unfortunately so will we starting shortly. IE We pay around $2.60 a gallon for gasoline, what are you paying. I seems you do not even HAVE Dentist in the UK! ;)
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Clive wrote:

That's pretty funny. Most people when they talk about "free" health care say it with a knowing smirk, accompanied by finger quotes, mocking those so ignorant as to believe it doesn't cost anybody anything. It's not often that you hear that it's "free" expressed by someone who has enough intelligence to write in complete sentences like you are able to do. That is amazing. I am in awe.

One way or another, I have a feeling that restaurant wait people get paid some money somehow. Or are you saying that they work for reduced wages along with no tip? One way or another, the whole thing becomes a big shell game. Except with government doing it, you have their unequaled waste and inefficiencies to deal with along with 19,000 more IRS agents, etc., etc., etc., to "manage" it, plus doctors retiring early so they don't have to deal with even worse crap than they do now. Rationed care to the degree it will be rationed with what's coming won't be fun if it stands.
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On 24/03/2010 2:43 PM, Clive wrote:

Having lived int eh UK, I can honestly say you pay through the nose. The spread between net income and expenses in the UK is much smaller. With lower high taxed wages and high costs you are screwed.
Fortunately I was on expat wages...LMAO.
You pay, like Canada your government is flat out expensive and broke.
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Canuck57 wrote:

BUT IT'S FREE!! LOL!
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If you don't like what's going on then move on to Mexico. Tired of this thread and off topic posts! Every politician needs to be replaced in every seat. Same old dickheads in there so what would we expect.
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You are correct. To show OUR government that we do not like what it is doing to our Constitution and our county we can us our ultimate weapon, the ballot, and not re-elect ANYONE currently "serving" us in the federal government.
We can do it in just six years that Senators serve. All other offices are elected for two or four years.
The Commerce Clause was never intended to allow the federal government to take powers FROM the states. It was intended to protect one state from taking power from another.
Clearly what the feds have been doing for years is in violation of the tenth Amendment and I am glad to see that the Attorney's General of 19 SOVEREIGN states are fighting back

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My daughter was in a minor car accident. She told us her neck was bothering her. Local doctor in next town over told us the next available appointment was in TWO weeks. Ended up driving 135 miles to see a specialist in the next county. So much for USA medicine.
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Did they have an urgent care clinic?
You mean to say the closest hospital was 135 miles away????
Most all hospitials have emergency services. You must be way out in the boonies to have to drive 135 miles to a hospital emergency room. Wow!!
Was your daughter seriously injured and how is she doing?
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Imagine what this will look like when more hospitals close and many more doctors "retire".
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Conscience wrote:

And this is happening now, without the health care reform. St. Vincent's Hospital in Manhattan, which has served poor people for years, is on th verge of closing.
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